Jack Owens needs a taxi paying for him to go back to Widnes.

Only one poor team tonight and it's not Salford !

Knowles - miles away from SL quality.

He isn't a hooker though is he? Thought he was a LF?

Sure KC will probably blame him anyway. Looks like Percival is fecked again too. Any decent players we do have are seemingly made of glass.

Yes Salford definitely title contenders now. The bookies stopped taking bets on it.

If you read my original post, you will see I'm not having a pop at Salford as they have shown us up in every department and we'll worth the win and the score. I'm just pointing out to NickyKiss that Wigan loss to cas is different to our loss tonight.

Very very harsh. He's done ok in a shocking performance and If we are totally honest he shouldn't be playing.

KC team selections tonight have been shocking. We look lost.

Ultimately this is about coaching. We haven't now had any type of threatening attack for 12 months. And it is unacceptable to be consistently unable to defend at all within 10 metres of either touchline.

The daft decision to extend KC's contract has been made. We now need a director of rugby to come in and be the actual coach, because under Cunningham, a lot of decent players are looking like park pitch amateurs.

We got what we deserved.

Set up negatively, poor selection choices and a poor attitude.

Can't wait for Cunningham's excuses after this one. It was horrid.

KC just baffles me with his comments and actions. I could spend all night writing his contradicting comments.

For instance, where is one of the best young players in the world in Greenwood?

Praised the hell out of fages all pre season and can't get a look in.

JT had finally found his position at LF last year but he's 6 this year ?

Well you can guarantee it won't be his fault, it never is. A man out of his depth.

Very poor, a combination of poor selection and poor attitude. They and most of us fans thought we'd turn up and beat them easily. We had no idea that Salford had a performance like that in them.

Cunningham will learn from it. The lads will learn from it. Very harsh but necessary lesson.

Is luke Walsh the softest ever saints player. . . . ?

He plays the game like he's terrified of contact. Walking the ball out for that drop out, good grief that annoys me.

KC basically admitting he's not got a clue there. Admitted he knew they were complacent and couldn't do a damn thing about it. He's called the player's attitudes into question, said he asked for a response and got nothing. If that's the case, there isn't much of a future there really is there?

A lot of you on here mocked me when I said we'd struggle to make the top four. As poor as the rest of Super League is, we're now well amongst the middle of the table sides. If this poor attitude continues, we'll struggle to make the top 6 this season.

Our recruitment? Utterly pathetic. Jack Owens isn't a St Helens player. He's not a Super League player and whoever made the decision to sign him needs looking at. Even more worrying is that we're chasing another Widnes player rather than being ambitious. At best this season we'll have a season like Warrington and Hull did last year. What we won't do is recruit like they have.

I said it before the season started that Saints fans need to lower our expectations. We're not capable of winning trophies anymore. We've got a squad of average players and only Roby and Walsmley with any real quality. When either is out we'll lose, if both were out I'd guarantee it. Top 6 would be an achievement for this team.

As expected Cunningham ducks any sort of responsibility.

Said on sky that he could smell complacency before the match.

I dispair....

I'd say Turner and Tasi are just as bad.