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Quote: Albion "m.sthelensreporter.co.uk/sport/saints/cunningham-unfazed-by-schofield-criticism-1-7768962

He's just the biggest excuse man now.

Not playing attractive rugby because of the salary cap? I've heard it all now'"


I think he's just completely lost in his own idealism, someone needs to have words and put him back into reality.

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Quote: Judder Man "I think he's just completely lost in his own idealism, someone needs to have words and put him back into reality.'"


Two outspoken legends of the game in Alex Murphy and Garry Schofield have both criticised our approach and style of play and KC has brushed their comments off.

Has I've said in previous posts, I think Cunningham can be a success coaching us but I admit I am a little perturbed by his comments disregarding an expansive style as being the way to win games. He's a St Helens lad and he knows the clubs philosophy. A few years ago, Rush compared the clubs philosophy to that of football teams like Ajax and Barcelona. The hierarchy at this club expect the team to be entertaining and so I expect KC knows that too.

I expect another 2 points tonight and that will be 4 out of 5. We should be aiming to keep them to at least 1 try because personality I'm more concerned by our defence than attack at present.

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44-4, kept them down to one score, put a few points on the board to improve our points difference, 4 wins out of 5....any thoughts?

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Quote: Twentyman "44-4, kept them down to one score, put a few points on the board to improve our points difference, 4 wins out of 5....any thoughts?'"


Wakefield at home can't tell us much. They're the worst team in the league by a country mile, their coach just walked out on them, and they're at our place. It's one of those games where the only acceptable result is a big win.

The real test is Leeds. They're not the same side which won the GF last year, but they're still capable of putting up a decent show for long periods. I think that'll be a better test of where we are. A good win and I think a lot of the criticism off the back of Salford and the Aussies will subside.

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People will point out how bad Wakefield were (and they were bad), but in the first half I thought we were pretty good and played with a bit more freedom. We have much better shape with Wilkin at 13 and Greenwood on the edge. Turner at 6 offers a running threat but he misses things that a real half wouldn't. I'm hoping to see more of Fages soon.

In the second half it turned into a bit of a pre-season friendly.

Shame for Swift - looked like a bad injury.

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Still a few things to moan about, why did LMS have to go centre when Turner could have gone there with Wilkin at stand off. We did play with a lot of freedom in the first half with more passes in the first 10 mins than what we normally do in a whole match, don't know what KC said at half time but we restarted as per the norm barging up the middle. Wakefield were the worse super league team I have seen for many years, we should have put more points on in the second half, Widnes or Warrington would have kept there foot on the gas and got 60 to 70 points.

Leeds next week who are struggling in the halves and the opposition are wrapping up Cuthbertson to stop his offloads, will KC put this in his game plan next week or will he think the way forward is an arm wrestle, we've got 3 important games now which will shape us up for the remaining season.

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Quote: Roy Haggerty "The real test is Leeds. They're not the same side which won the GF last year, but they're still capable of putting up a decent show for long periods. I think that'll be a better test of where we are. A good win and I think a lot of the criticism off the back of Salford and the Aussies will subside.'"


I didn't go to saints so I watched the Wigan v Leeds game and Leeds were awful. We should beat Leeds as comfortably as Wigan did last night.

The one I am worried about - and always fear if I'm being honest - is Wigan on good Friday. I can't remember the last time we showed up in that fixture. If we beat them in a couple of weeks I think that will really lift the team and the fans.

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Quote: Judder Man "Still a few things to moan about, why did LMS have to go centre when Turner could have gone there with Wilkin at stand off. We did play with a lot of freedom in the first half with more passes in the first 10 mins than what we normally do in a whole match, don't know what KC said at half time but we restarted as per the norm barging up the middle. Wakefield were the worse super league team I have seen for many years, we should have put more points on in the second half, Widnes or Warrington would have kept there foot on the gas and got 60 to 70 points.

Leeds next week who are struggling in the halves and the opposition are wrapping up Cuthbertson to stop his offloads, will KC put this in his game plan next week or will he think the way forward is an arm wrestle, we've got 3 important games now which will shape us up for the remaining season.'"


I don't think I've seen a super league as unfit as Wakey was last night. They all looked fat, slow and unfit.

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Does anybody know what the spat was about with big Alex when he was brought off in the last 15mins, wasn't a happy bunny at all, body language said it all and he looked as though he was giving the verbals when he got to the bench. Could this be the frustration of the players showing through.

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Leeds kept Wigan out for a long time, but Wigan have some good young players who kept at it and broke them, the new Aussie hooker looked he may develop first full match debut after injury in friendly, not convinced it will be a walk over next week!

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Quote: Judder Man "Still a few things to moan about, why did LMS have to go centre when Turner could have gone there with Wilkin at stand off.'"

That was the right decision, in my book. Better to swap your centre than have to reorganise your half back partnership in the first 5 minutes of a game. LMS had a decent game at centre, too.

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Quote: Dux "That was the right decision, in my book. Better to swap your centre than have to reorganise your half back partnership in the first 5 minutes of a game. LMS had a decent game at centre, too.'"



But JT is playing like a backrow than a 6 tho. He's never a 6 as long as he lives. He just fits into KC philosophy of driving it up.

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Quote: St pete "But JT is playing like a backrow than a 6 tho. He's never a 6 as long as he lives. He just fits into KC philosophy of driving it up.'"

He's not a real 6, but he does offer a running threat which we desperately lack when we have a Walsh/Burns or Walsh/Wilkin partnership.

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Quote: Dux "He's not a real 6, but he does offer a running threat which we desperately lack when we have a Walsh/Burns or Walsh/Wilkin partnership.'"


But is he a threat ? I don't see him making breaks. He's playing like a backrow.

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Quote: Dux "He's not a real 6, but he does offer a running threat which we desperately lack when we have a Walsh/Burns or Walsh/Wilkin partnership.'"


He's more of a running threat out wide at centre, I'm assuming KC has him at 6 because of his defensive weakness which doesn't show up as much hiding behind the "middles pack". With both Swift and Percival out for a spell, Turner needs to go back at centre with Wilkin or Fages working alongside Walsh.

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