I'm saying he was injured throughout his stay with us. He's never going to be amazing defensively, but we definitely need someone to play there at the start of the season.

His first stint he wasn't looking too good, second stint he started to gel into the side and was making a few breaks. In defence and running the ball out was much better than Quinlan.

Kick awareness and positioning were well down though!

Quinlan was very good under the high ball, but as Pete says avoided contact wherever possible and made next to no yards on kick returns. SMD was a touch better but still he's a very, very average player. Neither are good enough to be here longer than needed and should not be given new contracts.

Quinlan covered a position for us but he's not good enough IMO.

He looked solid under the bomb and his support play got him over the line a few times for us but he struggled in other areas IMO. He didn't threaten the opposition with his kick returns and defensively he was too rushed with his one v one decision making. He was beaten too easily, too frequently IMO. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he was brilliant in attack but as I say, his kick returns were consistently poor and despite a few nice touches, his vision coming into the line wasn't up to standard I'd expect for a club who are serious about winning trophies.

Nothing about our recruitment suggests that we are.

You said similar when you thought Wakey's backline was better than ours though

Well I see that saddened is back on track.

All is woe.