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Quote: WeepingWillow "Also it might be best waiting till the ins and outs are complete before passing judgement eh?'"


I agree. But doesn't mean I can't moan about it. I've got to keep the club on it's toes.

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I'd heard a few weeks back that Savelio may be on the move, but I expected that it was to Aus not Wire. It's a difficult one for Saints. If he has been offered a big contract elsewhere, should they match it?

What happens then when the next good young player comes through, do they pay over the odds for him too?

Saints will have put a value on him, and maybe they have been pushed into an auction and said at some point no. I know that's exactly what happened at Wigan with Ben Currie.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I'd heard a few weeks back that Savelio may be on the move, but I expected that it was to Aus not Wire. It's a difficult one for Saints. If he has been offered a big contract elsewhere, should they match it?

What happens then when the next good young player comes through, do they pay over the odds for him too?

Saints will have put a value on him, and maybe they have been pushed into an auction and said at some point no. I know that's exactly what happened at Wigan with Ben Currie.'"

Although he hadn't progresses as far as Savelio, we had a similar incident with Andy Braceck. He was the same age as Jammer and was also a star in the under-whatevers. He wanted more than Saints were willing to pay and, in hindsight, the club were absolutely correct. At the same time, we've stuck Lomax on a much improved contract and not exactly had got VFM on that one, depsite his talent, before that, we didn't hedge for Eastmond and really got stung.

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Quote: Saddened! "If a player wants to play NRL, he's got to show he's worth it. He's got to stand out and play consistently well.'"


Give over. Sure, the NRL is ahead of SL. But if you think it's a full-blown meritocracy you've swallowed too much of the hype.

Ask any Knights fan what they think the single biggest aid to Darius Boyd's career is.

Quote: Saddened! "If Warrington sign Savelio, they will do so on a four year deal. Two good seasons for them, then sell him for a few hundred thousand pounds.'"


If Warrington sign Savelio it will be at an inflated cost for a player who still hasn't locked down a first team jersey. Bear in mind that this is a player who is still RECOVERING from a debilitating physical and psychological ailment, the ramifications of which are UNKNOWN. Throw in the fact that he's marking time for the NRL and it's a no-brainer.

Quote: Saddened! "You all blindly support the club no matter what they do. I was absolutely bang on about the club neglecting the playing staff post KC/Scully and unless the club starts waking up it's going to happen again. Not only are we not in the bidding for the big names anymore, we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either. That's a bad combination.'"


Well ... duh! That's kind of what [i"supporters"[/i are meant to do. What are you, some kind of half-assed [i"conditional supporter"?[/i As for me [i"blindly supporting the club, no matter what they do"[/i - this is a BARE-FACED LIE and you know it.

Trumpeting how [i"bang on"[/i you are in a hysterical rant over losing a player who hasn't even been officially recognised as gone yet is about as plain an example of self-deception as I can think of.

But I'm prepared to play this game and recognise your divine powers of fortune telling if first you can tell me how many times you've been WRONG.

Quote: Saddened! "But hey ho, we've managed to tie down Matty Dawson icon_smile.gif

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Quote: Saddened! " our best forward '"
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Quote: Saddened! "Comparing him to Wello, who had been with Saints all his life and is from St Helens is off. Savelio was with Warrington, moved to Saints because of his ambition to develop and learn and he's done that. He is now performing consistently well when he's picked (Have you ever seen him have a bad game?). If Saints aren't rewarding that with anything like the offer from another club, why should he stay?'"


This is a total misrepresentation. For several months now Savelio has not signed because he "wants to play in the NRL". Saints not paying him what he thinks he is worth has never been mentioned.

If Savelio was unhappy with the salary Saints proposed he had every opportunity to say so. He hasn't to anyone I know he's passed his NRL love onto. What's more - there' been no attempt to roll back from the commitment to the NRL.

Which means a Warrington contract is the product of outright deceit. According to him he has no interest in playing SL.

Quote: Saddened! "Either way, I don't see how you can claim it's a good move to lose our best forward and receive nothing for him. You don't see Warrington, Leeds, Wigan losing young players to rival clubs and not being paid.'"


First, Savelio is NOT our best forward. He's not our second-best forward. He's not our third best forward. He's a very promising youngster who has looked good in the LIMITED opportunities he's had. In NO WAY does this make him anything like your over-blown portrayal. Not yet, anyhow.

Second, I find it hard to believe that this board's resident Pandora finds it inconceivable that a player who is willing to string his club along with a fictitious rationale whilst negotiating against them will do so again (with far greater consequences).

Let's say Saints upped their offer and Savelio decided to stay. Are you so stupid to think this will be the end of it? It's one thing to have a dream of going to Australia and making it happen. No one would ever hold that against him. But lying to the club? His teammates? Conducting back-channel negotiations to a club Saints' believe aren't even in the running? If ever there was an issue which is bound to spill over into the dressing room (in multiple very unpleasant ways - all of which can take root like a damned cancer) this is it.

Seriously, I can't believe I even need to explain this. It's ABC stuff.

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