He may well have won a double, but he sometimes puts his hands in his pockets and shrugs. I'm not willing to overlook that in favour of some trinkets or "champions" tag.

Seriously, Have you ever known that to happen EVER?????????????

Unreal that a double winning coach who's really turned this squad around massively can get stick.

3 Questions!

1. Did the squad that Nathan Brown took over look like it could potentially win the Grand Final?

2. Does the squad now look better than it did before he took over?

3. Is the club in a better position now than it was before he took over?

Q1. Not in a million years. Q2. Far better. Q3. 1000%.

In my opinion Nathan Brown has been a fantastic coach for the club and I thank him, wholeheartedly, for everything he has done.

Quote: Top Saint "3 Questions! 1. Did the squad that Nathan Brown took over look like it could potentially win the Grand Final? 2. Does the squad now look better than it did before he took over? 3. Is the club in a better position now than it was before he took over? Q1. Not in a million years. Q2. Far better. Q3. 1000%. In my opinion Nathan Brown has been a fantastic coach for the club and I thank him, wholeheartedly, for everything he has done.'" Agreed! How anyone can say they will remember him for the 40 odd point drubbings we had is crazy as I'll remember him for the grand final win against our biggest rivals in a game nobody give us a chance with! Also we wouldn't have this video if it wasn't for him youtu.be/AFn7XZTlvUs

Quote: Top Saint "3 Questions! 1. Did the squad that Nathan Brown took over look like it could potentially win the Grand Final? 2. Does the squad now look better than it did before he took over? 3. Is the club in a better position now than it was before he took over? Q1. Not in a million years. Q2. Far better. Q3. 1000%. In my opinion Nathan Brown has been a fantastic coach for the club and I thank him, wholeheartedly, for everything he has done.'" Agreed! How anyone can say they will remember him for the 40 odd point drubbings we had is crazy as I'll remember him for the grand final win against our biggest rivals in a game nobody give us a chance with! Also we wouldn't have this video if it wasn't for him youtu.be/AFn7XZTlvUs

Quote: St pete "Agreed! How anyone can say they will remember him for the 40 odd point drubbings we had is crazy as I'll remember him for the grand final win against our biggest rivals in a game nobody give us a chance with! Also we wouldn't have this video if it wasn't for him Or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwmBLLDh7Q

Quote: St pete "Agreed! How anyone can say they will remember him for the 40 odd point drubbings we had is crazy as I'll remember him for the grand final win against our biggest rivals in a game nobody give us a chance with! Also we wouldn't have this video if it wasn't for him Or this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LwmBLLDh7Q

not according to you we wont with cunningham in charge!....

Last word on Nathan Brown from me - I'm glad he's gone.

Last word on Cunningham from me in this thread - I've got real reservations but I hope he turns out well.

There's no pleasing you is there! Just stop being so bloody negative all the time.

what does this mean then?............. .......

In 2013, I was one of the loudest on Brown getting sacked. He won me over during 2014, however, before the 2014 play offs started, right off the back of defeats to Wire & Giants, how many of us truly would have liked Brown still be in charge for the 2015 season?

I felt that Brown did a brilliant job at Saints, but that we were maybe just one step short of fulfilling our full potential. What I mean by that, is that although we are SL champions, we did it ugly, without playmakers, with a fair few losses and some of them were quite humiliating too. And we still truly haven't created that aura of invincibility at LP. Some teams like Wire still fancy themselves to come away with a win with a decent winning margin too.

Brown took us as far has he could (and over achieved in the end). I truly believe Cunningham can take us that next level. That, being a team were we are feared, play entertaining rugby with a never say die attitude EVERY game and not when we feel like it.

It's never just 'another 2 points'.

I think one of the worse coaching debut's was Ian Millward if I remember rightly was Leeds 70 Saints 0 and he inherited a good team where Browny had to rebuild one and Cunningham needs to take it one step further.