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Quote: Saddened! "I could also dissect your assertion about those players in comparison with other clubs too. Is anyone convinced by Lomax? Looked bright as a kid, flourished at full back for a brief period, then spent 12 months looking jaded during which his performances were nothing to get excited about. Hopefully his op will fix this, but he's not kicked on for me and there are quite a few that could claim to be better fullbacks in SL.

Burns would be good at 6, adding some of the grunt we need. Is Walsh going to be here next year? Is he going to be healthy enough? Is he going to be the same player he was? All massive question marks. Even Roby at 9 is debatable. Clarke is out and out better than Roby now and he'll be playing for Warrington next year.'"


Name a better 1, 6, 7 & 9 combination in SL than Lomax, Burns, Walsh & Roby if that's what we have next season?

It would also allow Hohaia to play as a utility man to cover all those positions and keep the squad fresh.

You may be right on the culture of the club and you may be right that we do have some holes in other areas of the squad but you can't argue about the quality of that combination of players.

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I'm starting to think Saddened just wants Mac out.

He has obviously been snubbed by the guy and is running some kind of agenda.

Roby is someone we are ruining as a club. Because he can do a full 80 we are getting him to do it and now he is slowly losing that edge he used to have.

I'm not sure why we are trying to burn the guy out. We never put Cunningham in a position like this, season after season. Cunningham had good understudies with Roby and Higham and I think it was only 1 season where we had to operate with just cunningham.

We are taking a great player and making him average, it would be simple to fix but we just don't seem willing now to take that 80 minute tag away from him.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I'm starting to think Saddened just wants Mac out.

He has obviously been snubbed by the guy and is running some kind of agenda.

Roby is someone we are ruining as a club. Because he can do a full 80 we are getting him to do it and now he is slowly losing that edge he used to have.

I'm not sure why we are trying to burn the guy out. We never put Cunningham in a position like this, season after season. Cunningham had good understudies with Roby and Higham and I think it was only 1 season where we had to operate with just cunningham.

We are taking a great player and making him average, it would be simple to fix but we just don't seem willing now to take that 80 minute tag away from him.'"


Hopefully that will change if Burns is coming in, with Hohaia reverting to hooker on the bench and cover for the halfbacks

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I'm hoping so, but it could also see Lance leaving if he does not want to be that utility player.

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Quote: bewareshadows "I'm hoping so, but it could also see Lance leaving if he does not want to be that utility player.'"


Lomax
Makinson Turner Jone Swift
Burns Walsh
Amor Roby Walmsley
Wilkin Vea
Thompson

Hohaia Flanaghan LMS Masoe

Wellens Dawson Percival Hewitt
Beaumont Richards Greenwood Savelio

Is where were at at the moment signed wise (+burns) - Id imagine: Burns = Laffranchis money, Vea = Soliolas (with change), which leaves Manu completely unreplaced, McDonnell unreplaced and Wheeler unreplaced, who will all be earning a decent sum. If Hohaia goes as well (another big salary if you believe rumours) then thats just more space, with a backup hooker/ another quality second row to pick up.

Back on topic, rumour has it were not even having to pay a fee for Burns, as he had a clause that allowed him to leave if Sandercock left...

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Quote: St pete "I agree he's been given a hard time by some saints fans but he's never played really poor but he's also never played like the half people expected.

He always gives 100% and people thought he could just slot in as a play maker but I knew he couldn't play that role.

I think he will he a great addition as utility player off the bench, he's made for that position in this modern game.'"


This or fullback was what he should have been brought in for. I think effort wise he cant really be knocked but I think some of the performances he's churned out at 6 have been terrible at best. Not a massive surprise that he's improved playing alongside a proper 7 though

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Quote: The Chief "Would people rather have Travis burns for 2-3 seasons or take a punt trying to prise someone like Ryan Hampshire away from Wigan? Not all three of the youngsters can play 6 at the same time. I suspect least one of those 3 is going to be looking for regular first team action next season.'"



I'd be surprised if the goons would be willing to sell one of their star youngster to us just yet. Of the 3 lads one of them will cover/rotate 9, one will cover/rotate Bowen at 1 and the halves and the other will be the starting 6.

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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "
Is where were at at the moment signed wise (+burns) - Id imagine


I'd expect lots of change from this, can't see Vea being on anywhere near what Sia is

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Quote: SecondRowSaint "I'd expect lots of change from this, can't see Vea being on anywhere near what Sia is'"


No doubt, but it just further makes the point I was trying to make, SC is not an issue at the moment, yet were losing a lot of fluff from the squad and not much that needs replacing, which means the money can be spent bringing in quality players where we need most (like Burns.)

On a slightly different note, is it just me, or does the outline of Bradford's next signing on twitter look like Paul clough?

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Skysports.com wrote: 'There was still time for Murrell to knock over a drop-goal into the sea of delirious red and white behind the posts. The Black and Whites were already heading disconsolately home'.:



Saints have made an 80k bid for Burns and Rovers are 'listening', apparently.

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@GaryCarter_1979: St Helens have made a cash bid - worth about £80,000 - for Hull KR's Travis Burns. Rovers are considering it.

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I think this journalist needs to catch up with this forum. He's way behind icon_smile.gif

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Quote: another fine mess "@GaryCarter_1979

The tweet further down from Mascarandy ( Saints Media Manager ) would suggest otherwise.

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



I wonder why season ticket renewal has not come up yet from Saints ?
An extra £10 from everyone could see this transfer fee a probability?

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Would you be willing to pay more for some decent signings icon_confused.gif:

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Quote: Rommel "I wonder why season ticket renewal has not come up yet from Saints yet?
An extra £10 from everyone could see this transfer fee a probability?'"


Or the fact we were already projected to break even, and then sky gave everyone an extra 500k probably helps...

That said, I dont understand why clubs dont offer an optional extra when buying season tickets for a transfer fund - a tenner extra, with an extra ticket in the back which acts as a tenner off the next season ticket if you werent happy with any signings the club made. Club builds a small fund for "extra" signings, fans feel they actively contributed to the team - win win.

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