I'm just looking for possibles. Personally I really fancy Swift, but as I say, Brown seems slightly reluctant to involve him.

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Whilst Meli is probably our best winger, this does not mean he should not be replaced. But it also does not mean we should keep Gardner.

Meli is a big unit and can shift people out the way with his runs. So in all likelihood we are going to be getting someone smaller in the team. But this does not mean they will be a less effective winger, just a different type of Winger. Rather biff, bash and barge, they may have to be more of a speedster or an elusive runner.

There have been lots of great wingers, but they are not all built like Meli or have the same style of play. Darren Albert, Jason Robison, Martyn Offiar. Wingers can be all different shapes and sizes. It's the one part of the game where you don't have to be 6ft 6 and charge through people.

If we can get a wingman who can take people on the outside and score as many as Meli then then it's not such a loss or maybe an improvement. It's not the loss of Meli, it how the replacement will be, that is important.

Farewell to the excitement machine.

I fear we won't find anyone as good let alone better than meli.

Nothing new there then. We Prob not replace him at all.

Why the obsession with buying anyone? We have Makinson and Swift to play there. Also wing is not a position I would personally spend much cap space on anyway as it is the perfect position to blood young backs from the academy. These players will get first team experience without the full on pressure of the more central positions.

No obsession mate. I just rather saints started to replace players every now and then. Every man and his dog knew that finding players to replace the likes of long, gidley, scully, pryce and KC would make or break our immediate future.

I'm all for youth but we can't keep saying we don't need to replace this player and that player because of youth because its back fired so far.

Tyrer - the next Jamie Lyon

Ashurst & Dixon to be the backrow for 10 years.

Lee Gaskell to replace pryce

Eastmond to replace long

Emmitt - the next James Graham


How many games as swift played exactly? Who's he played against? If your so sure based on few games against mediocre teams then you should be scouting for saints.

I have no problem when fans demand class replacements for the main pivot positions. Youth players capable of playing those positions will have played many first team games, in less pressure positions, and proved that they have the ability and can handle the pressure. However, for the reasons I gave earlier, wing is not a position I would personally spend any major cap money on, unless the player concerned has come through our own youth system. Even then it would not be mega money.

I think he has shown promise in that position and should have been given more game time against better opposition. That way we could all have made a more balanced judgement. As it is, we have had a taster and it has left us wondering could he be our next full time winger.

As for being a scout

I'm happy letting the current scouts find the next generation. They are doing a far better job than I, or anybody else on here, could possibly do.

The simple fact where youth is concerned is that there is no guarantee of success. How the young players progress is as much down to the players attitude as it is their ability. If he has the right attitude he will be a good player. His ability will determine whether he will be a great player. I would like to see more of him to see if he has both attitude and ability. He may have, he may not have, but one way or another we need to see more of him.

I just think taking a risk on a untried youngster is massive gamble in our current squad. We need to replace with quality at the moment to get back up there.

I get both sides of this. Wingers are a bit of a luxury at the moment. But the player drain effect is also emphasised by this..

IF we get a 6 and a prop or 2. Then I have no issue waiting another year for a winger.

If we get no winger, no 6 and no other props. If Masoe and Walsh are it then the numbers in and out seam to not match up.

TP/Meli/Perry/Wellens/ Gaskell / Ade / Laffranchi??

Masoe/Walsh/Beaumont/ The other fella???

The other fella = matt Dawson