I've been saying for 2 years that he wouldn't be with us long and no one listened then.

I was under the impression he was injured and that was why he was not playing for Salford. Nothing to do with form.

Anyway it's not like, not playing for Salford means you are not good enough for Saints. Howarth!!

I can't take to many positives from that game to be honest. The only positive really, is that we scored points easier than we've been doing but IMO the wolves ain't a great team these days.

The lack of go forward when teams become dominate against us is becoming just as big problem as having no halfbacks. Our props are very poor when under pressure. We was only making 20m per set at times while Warrington was going 60m. 20m isn't good enough at any level of rugby and I include kids rugby in that. Wilkins kicks are very poor but he's kicking mostly from inside our own 20m line and even the best kickers in the world can only hoof and hope.

The defence was shocking at times, especially outwide. Eveytime they moved the ball wide, we was in trouble. God help us at hudds next Monday with the way they move the ball wide and with the likes of Cudjoe outwide.

I just hope we sign two props for next year or I'm afraid the luke Walsh signing maybe a waste of time. Even the best halves in the world can't play do anything in a team that can't get out of there on 20m.

We can't afford to keep Laffranchi or Perry, both have been a disaster and need replacing with proper props.

St pete. I agree - we are playing terrible. Just imagine the score if we were a good team. Saints remind me of warrington 6 or 7 seven years ago - a one man team. You rely far too much on roby.

I honestly don't think you are that good this year and was surprised how easy we scored points as we e struggled all year putting points on the board but you lot have players that make things happen in the likes of Ratchford, Atkins, briers, myler, Westwood, Monaghan and Especially Waterhouse against us who always plays well.

We ain't in the same league as Wigan and IMO at the moment, Wigan are head and shoulders above you lot. Can't see who's going to stop them.

Lets hope they choke in the play offs again

He has been playing for Salford for a few weeks, at centre. They didn't need anyone in the halves. They have three halfbacks. But they needed someone in the centre. He can play centre, so he plays centre.

If there were problems off field, and that's only rumour, then they should have addressed the problems not simply shipped out a halfback leaving us without a halfback. That's just shooting ourselves in the foot.

Ryan McGoldrick, who is a journeyman and a makeshift stand off at best, has been getting picked at 6 ahead of Gaskell. I do agree that it would be handy to have him around, but it may just be that it wasn't possible to resolve whatever issues were arising. Most of us haven't a clue what's gone on, but I'm prepared to assume that he has burnt his own bridges at Saints because a) that is what posters with consistent insider info have said, and b) I can't think of any other reason why Saints would ship him out under current circumstances.

He had issues with saints last season under Rush. Nathan Brown came in and wanted him to be his first choice stand off but those same issues popped up again.

I'd be very surprised if he played for us again.

Funny how Gaskell didn't appear to have issues under Simmons. Surely if he had problems they would appear no matter who was in charge? Or are the problems perhaps to do with Rush directly? Rush appears to be very close to the coaching set up.

Obviously you don't know about the issues he DID have with Royce. Hull KR at home (Widnes) in the challenge cup (I think) when Gaskell was subbed for a returning Leon Pryce and then was dropped. Gaskell wasnt happy at all and had a bust up big time.

Royce only selected Gaskell when Leon was injured again but Royce did stick with Gaskell in the play offs due to form.

So clearly he could handle him then.

I wish, as a teacher, that I could just ship off the awkward kids in my class. What an easy life I would have some days!!

The fact Royce, Rush and then Brown all had issues must say something.

Not the same. You teach children for the good of the children. Our coach coaches players for the good of the club.

Assuming the gossip is true, of course. There is no 'fact' here at all. Just some posters on an internet forum making claims.
It's very easy for stories to be made up to try and justify a stupid action (getting rid of our one remaining fit halfback) rather than everyone just admit it was a stupid action.

I know its true