I think that's the crux of it. Whoever agreed to the original plans was clearly mental. Did they think we resided in Tenerife? It always rains over here and a soaking concourse in 3 stands of a brand new stadium is unacceptable.

It's good that Saints have realised it's a problem and are trying to resolve the issue, but if the engineers deem that we can't clad the stadium, then we've royally fecked up agreeing to the original design.

Find it amazing when someone does not agree that it is "Drivel" I always thought a Forum was about opinions not just patting each other on the back, and it is not just here!

IF it is found cladding can't be added to the ground then it is one big mistake and mess! after spending so much money, shame like many RL grounds money was not spent on Knowsley Road when the Sky era started.

I stand by my suggestion that it was removed as a cost saving measure. It's clearly possible as there are stadiums almost identical to ours which do have cladding, I've been to Rotherham's and that is spookily similar to ours and is fully clad. Saints now can't afford to add it and so are trying to persuade someone else to do it for them.

If it was taken off as a cost cutting measure then the design should have no problems holding the cladding when it is put back on????

There is a whole debate on flags from fans causing too much wind resistance because of the design.

That's my point, the excuse about wind resistance is just that, an excuse to kick it into the long grass.

They are clearly doing that. But then I'm not convinced that Saints/McManus are particularly concerned with maximising fans' match day experience really. I rather think we are all supposed to be doffing our caps and humbly giving thanks regardless.

Has your account been hacked ? This isn't the saintsfan I know and love

You've slowly but surely come around to my way of thinking.

Yea he's been crap for Saints.

McManus has been the best thing to happen to saints in a long time. Without him we wouldn't have a club.

However, the running of the club at times is shocking.

Exactly. He's been fantastic for us, leading us into a far more positive future than we could have dreamed about just a few years ago.

But he's not a super hero, whoever is assembling the squad is making a massive mess of it and there are still plenty of things they need to improve on as a club.

You would have thought saints would have learned lessons from the past but still making the same mistakes.

Like I said 12 month ago, we will be deep in debt in 3/4 years.

Funny how there aren't any pictures to put in the cladding edition yet ...

Well if the work hasn't started there wouldn't be, would there!