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I have a feeling Wellens will get off but lefrenchie won't.
Didn't Wellens miss the last Good Friday derby at KR?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I have a feeling Wellens will get off but lefrenchie won't.
Didn't Wellens miss the last Good Friday derby at KR?'"
Wellens should. I think Laffranchi would be unlucky to get a 2 match ban as well. It's his first referral here and it wasn't a bad spear. Before this season it would have been a classic 'letter about technique' case. The legs aren't lifted high and he lands on his back. |
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Quote: SaintsFan "What a load of rubbish. If it had been our players upended on their heads you would have been bleating like mad if Wire had been let off. They were both bad tackles, regardless of whether they were deliberate or simply reckless. They both deserve bans because they both involved putting a player on their head. That is dangerous even when it's a Wire player being put on their head. (If it had been Wigan players, of course, that would have improved them no end)'"
I have not seen the incidents so could not say whether there was intent or not, whether they where dangerous or not. But just because you feel they are deserving of a ban does not make it the actual penalty that will be given.
You have to take into account player records even if they are found guilty and intent is also a factor in the penalty given.
My point is Wellens has an excellent record and so will probably not recieve the full 2 matches. If there is a lack of intent, then he may not get one match. You may feel that all these types of tackles deserve a certain penalty but the justice system does not work that way.
Hence Brent webb shoving a ref which carries a 3 match ban, was found guilty, but due to a lack of intent and an excellent prior record, just got a fine. So taking this as a marker you can see why Wellens if he is found guilty may not be banned. It about what the court is likely to do not what we would do.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3406
So if a more serious offence can be reduced to a fine due to no priors I would expect the same for Wello. I have no idea of La Franki's previous records hence can't say what mitigation he may get.
All this is based on a guilty verdict too, and they may get found not guilty. |
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Quote: SaintsFan "What a load of rubbish. If it had been our players upended on their heads you would have been bleating like mad if Wire had been let off. They were both bad tackles, regardless of whether they were deliberate or simply reckless. They both deserve bans because they both involved putting a player on their head. That is dangerous even when it's a Wire player being put on their head. (If it had been Wigan players, of course, that would have improved them no end)'"
I have not seen the incidents so could not say whether there was intent or not, whether they where dangerous or not. But just because you feel they are deserving of a ban does not make it the actual penalty that will be given.
You have to take into account player records even if they are found guilty and intent is also a factor in the penalty given.
My point is Wellens has an excellent record and so will probably not recieve the full 2 matches. If there is a lack of intent, then he may not get one match. You may feel that all these types of tackles deserve a certain penalty but the justice system does not work that way.
Hence Brent webb shoving a ref which carries a 3 match ban, was found guilty, but due to a lack of intent and an excellent prior record, just got a fine. So taking this as a marker you can see why Wellens if he is found guilty may not be banned. It about what the court is likely to do not what we would do.
www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3406
So if a more serious offence can be reduced to a fine due to no priors I would expect the same for Wello. I have no idea of La Franki's previous records hence can't say what mitigation he may get.
All this is based on a guilty verdict too, and they may get found not guilty. | |
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| Quote: bewareshadows " I have no idea of La Franki's previous records hence can't say what mitigation he may get.
All this is based on a guilty verdict too, and they may get found not guilty.'"
If I were a betting man I'd put money on them both receiving no ban if they were isolated incidents. BUT with two players from the club being up and Wigan crying about their squad and trying to influence the decision, I doubt both will escape. If it's true that Wellens has never been banned before he has a decent chance. But I suspect that will mean Laffranchi cops one game.
It will be mighty interesting to see how much club bias there is on the panel this week as well, does anyone know who it is? Wigan are very often well represented. |
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SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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Quote: Saddened! "If I were a betting man I'd put money on them both receiving no ban if they were isolated incidents. BUT with two players from the club being up and Wigan crying about their squad and trying to influence the decision, I doubt both will escape. If it's true that Wellens has never been banned before he has a decent chance. But I suspect that will mean Laffranchi cops one game.
It will be mighty interesting to see how much club bias there is on the panel this week as well, does anyone know who it is? Wigan are very often well represented.'"
Colin Clarke, Maurice Lindsay and Billy Boston.
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Quote: Saddened! "If I were a betting man I'd put money on them both receiving no ban if they were isolated incidents. BUT with two players from the club being up and Wigan crying about their squad and trying to influence the decision, I doubt both will escape. If it's true that Wellens has never been banned before he has a decent chance. But I suspect that will mean Laffranchi cops one game.
It will be mighty interesting to see how much club bias there is on the panel this week as well, does anyone know who it is? Wigan are very often well represented.'"
Colin Clarke, Maurice Lindsay and Billy Boston.
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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Boof will get two then,worse than Wellos.
Mackinson to full back then I hope.
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[quote='Fishsta"']I've always thought of McGuire as a good player, and I wouldn't normally wish injury on any player, but there was a certain hint of poetic justice to that.
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Another classic:
[quote='Fishsta']You forgot to take off the "Saints Reduction Factor" when calculating the ban.
Standard suspension / Saints Reduction Factor = Actual ban for Saints player.
Therefore (2 / 3) = 0.666
0.666 < 1 therefore actual ban equals "less than 1 match".
Therefore ZERO.[/quote]
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| Quote: Don Brennan "Actually hold the front page,misleading tweets from Saints at the moment.'"
Official SL Twitter account confirms Wellens one game ban. |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "What a load of rubbish. If it had been our players upended on their heads you would have been bleating like mad if Wire had been let off. They were both bad tackles, regardless of whether they were deliberate or simply reckless. They both deserve bans because they both involved putting a player on their head. That is dangerous even when it's a Wire player being put on their head. (If it had been Wigan players, of course, that would have improved them no end)'"
Had someone else said this, you would be screaming for a ban..... |
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| Wellens will be a big loss if any potential appeal fails. He has been more than solid in the last three games and we'll miss his experience (and refereeing  ). |
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| Quote: Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy "Official SL Twitter account confirms Wellens one game ban.'"
Any news if he will appeal ? |
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Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time -
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| Quote: MickeyMo "Wellens will be a big loss if any potential appeal fails. He has been more than solid in the last three games and we'll miss his experience (and refereeing ![]()
He's a loss but we've just got to get on with it. He broke the rules and IMO rightly is paying the price.
It's not bad when we can move makinson in who is more than a good enough replacement.
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