Wello, Meli, foster, laffranchci, hohaia, LMS, clough, wilkin, perry flannery are not good enough IMO.

Never rated LMS and he's proving me correct. He's to small, no aggression and doesn't do the hard yards or work a prop should be doing.

That's the worrying part.Other than Roby, we have a full squad to pick from.
Sorry,forgot that other stunning signing,Flanagan

Like I've said so many times, this Saints side has Wigan 2003 - 2006 written all over it.
Next thing, start changing coaches (you've already started).
Good young kids but no experienced leaders.

Rogues,circling the carcass like a vulture.

He was saying exactly the same last season but we still managed to boot Wigan out of the playoffs and lose another Grand Final. I just ignore him. He talks bollax.

This happens at the start of every season for you. You lose some stinkers and annoyingly improve at the end of the season.
Royce had the same criticism at the start last season and you came good in the end. Your forwards on paper and fully fit
should be bossing things around with any pack. Take the pressure of your side and give them chance to gell.
A great attendance as well- over 14,000 I believe. Year after year saints start like a slug. Have more patience cos
every year at the start of the season you lot are asking for changes. Give Royce some time and give the players some time.
They're the same side which got you to the GF beating Wigan twice on the way with the additions of lafrank, hoha and a josh perry
who'll return to full fitness soon. JG is a massive miss but give the new players chance to settle in and things will change- they
have every other time year after year.

Tricky one next week with bulls away. they played really well v us last week and potter will have them at least
as fired up, if not more. It's one of those season changing games where saints need to man up and I think
they will.

Come off it - Laffranchi and Hohaia have had no time whatsoever to bed in. Overseas signings often require a lot of patience. Consider Willie Talau - it took him the best part of twelve months before he started turning in the kinds of performances that made him such a good player in the NRL. Hell, even Jamie Lyon needed ten or so games to bed in.

Clough is a great third/fourth prop - [ibut not if the first choice duo aren't functioning[/i. Ditto, LMS. As for Wilkin, how many times must he prove himself before fans take him seriously?

Flanaghan is good player, we have quite a few of them actually but we have a poor coach.


Rogues is Rogues, a stupid old troll the mods refuse to ban.

If Wigan hadn't won the Challenge Cup and had two props missing then those games would have been ours.

How much time do you need to spot a poor player? Laffranchi is an average backrower. In a top side he'd be a relatively unnoticed workhorse. At prop for a team floundering? It looks pathetic. He's not up to playing prop.

Hohaia is a tramp's Rob Burrow. Tiny and nippy so looks relatively dangerous at times. Defensively inept and a complete waste of a signing.

Ohhhh I was just about to defend you then you come out with that.

I think bringing Mr Hock back was more of a disruption to your momentum than anything.

There have been some on the Leeds board who have held Saints up as a shining example of squad management compared to how Leeds have done things over the last few seasons.

Anyone who jumps to overblown conclusions based on a handful of games has no credibility.

Doesn't mean I'm not right. I've been absolutely bang on about our squad development, recruitment and chances this season.

On the plus side, we won't be suffering the embarassment of losing at Old Trafford again this season.