their stats are like a (broken) mirror image superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011 the only area robes is beaten is in missed tackles, 6 - 0 to micky Mc and Penalties, 3-2 to Micky. How has robes not missed a tackle and made 129 in 3 games? 43 a game and not one missed? FREAK!

their stats are like a (broken) mirror image superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... eason=2011 the only area robes is beaten is in missed tackles, 6 - 0 to micky Mc and Penalties, 3-2 to Micky. How has robes not missed a tackle and made 129 in 3 games? 43 a game and not one missed? FREAK!

What is good to see is some of the younger hookers across the league looking like good footballers and not just runners from acting halfback.

Yes, you wouldn't believe that a team who ran a record 1208 times from dummy half, with one player a record 778 dummy half runs would score less tries than they have done for ten years.

And that player then get out scooted by a 5'4" dwarf (sorry Rob) in the Grand Final.

Show me wherever I have said that Roby is hopeless or McIlorum is better. But if that's your opinion then you are quite entitled to it.

Whilst I'm not suggesting that McIlorum is as good as Roby, the way some of you are going at him it's obvious you've not seen him play this season. He's been outstanding, and twice the player he was last year.

Saying Frano was an 'average' RL player is a bit like saying Jimi Hendrix could knock a tune out.

To be Wigan's first choice stand off in THAT era for so long, you're not going to be just average, are you?

Red Vee tinted glasses, methinks.

Has Tommy L been spending any time at hooker for you?

I'm pretty sure you've stated before McIlorum was better than Roby , and you got slaughtered. Maybe someone with loads of time will dig it out just to show you up.

That's funny, it seemed that there were people foaming at the mouth about him not being good enough for Wigan after the Huddersfield game. How times can change in the space of two weeks

That still doesn't make him fit to lace Roby's boots.

McIlorum is a good player and has the potential to be extremely good. Not as good as Roby yet though as Roby is world class

Cant blame the Ape for bigging up one of his own , but to base the praise on his performance against Leeds is embarrassing , Leeds at the DW couldnt have been less interested if they had tried , it was a woeful performance and we all know it, I would save such comparisons until he has shown up in the really big games that count .

Something Roby has been doing for a while now .

Roby is class and the best english hooker. The only thing that annoys me about him is the fact that he scoots from dummy half so much, too much IMO. That's where I think Smith is better, he just has a bit more class, better passing and kicking.

I do like McIlorum and for me he should be back up to Roby for England. I don't for one minute believe he will ever be as good as Roby, but he'll certainly be good, and play well enough to get into the England team and hopefully start to play well consistently for Wigan.

is it possible to scoot 'too much' when you have the energy levels of Roby? saves the big guys for when they are really needed