Pretty much whenever he's been on the pitch.

You can yack all you want, but at this point last year you had Lomax in the same bin as you have Wheeler in now. In fact you had eastmond in aswell until he decided to leave and you then relised you could spread the doom and gloom by saying how much we'd miss him.

Doom and gloom? Moi?

I'd happily give Wheeler another chance if he proved his resilience. But this is chance 9,876 and probably his last if he wants to get a new deal. Another year of biscuititis and he'll be offski.

I'll not defend his injuries, I've never known a guy struggle so much to stay fit. If that's the reason we have to release him then fair doos, but if it does happen it'll be to the dissapointment of all but one supporter on here and will not be because of his lack of rugby ability.

Yeah, St Pete is really harsh on players isn't he.

Isn't St Pete your more optimistic alter ego. I have always assumed this to be the case.

I don't think I've ever seen Wheeler have a bad game.

Although I'm not sure I've ever seen him finish a full game either...

I take it you didn't watch the Quins away game then? Or the u20s game last time out at Widnes?

He was fabulous on both occasions. And he played the whole game on both occasions.

Quote: SaintsFan "I take it you didn't watch the Quins away game then? Or the u20s game last time out at Widnes? He was fabulous on both occasions. And he played the whole game on both occasions.'" Are you his agent? This wheeler hype is all smoke and mirrors , he's managed 36 appearances in 4 years and he's had a handful of good games. The fact you have to quote a u20's game against Widnes says alot. www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... page_id=10

Quote: SaintsFan "I take it you didn't watch the Quins away game then? Or the u20s game last time out at Widnes? He was fabulous on both occasions. And he played the whole game on both occasions.'" Are you his agent? This wheeler hype is all smoke and mirrors , he's managed 36 appearances in 4 years and he's had a handful of good games. The fact you have to quote a u20's game against Widnes says alot. www.saints.org.uk/saints.org.uk/ ... page_id=10

IMO wheeler looks to have great potential and looks a very good young player but his injury situation is very worrying.

How many chances do we give him?

The fact that you've had to use an U20's game to support your argument says a lot, even though I was being facetious with that remark. I'm sure he finished lots of U18s games too, but that's no use to us now.



I wasn't being facetious with my first comment though, I've never seen him play poorly for the first team.

Depends on his contract, if he's not on mega bucks then I'm happy to wait for him to try and get over his injuries.

He might grow out of them , then again he might not. I'd love to see him do well for Saints but I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up on the scrap heap at Leigh or somewhere