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Quote: Odemwingie "I really think saints fans should do something similar even if it is just for singing. Personally I think the flags look great.



In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Tony Stark "In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.'"








I think out flags are a little better icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Tony Stark "In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.'"


I really can't wait for next season, terracing will definitely be an advantage in attempt to start up an (ultra style) vocal support group.

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Quote: Back Row Singer "I really can't wait for next season, terracing will definitely be an advantage in attempt to start up an (ultra style) vocal support group.'"

That's one thing I wish we had at Wigan, terracing make things so much easier!

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Dave26 "That's one thing I wish we had at Wigan, terracing make things so much easier!'"


Aye advantage saints in that area.

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Quote: Odemwingie "Aye advantage saints in that area.'"


It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.

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Quote: Ski "It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.'"


I'm gonna see if I can aquire some more interest at the match on friday icon_cool.gif

The thing with terracing is, it allows the pre match drinkers (usually singers too) to get in at 7.58pm and still be able to join us.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Ski "It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.'"


The thing is it is a lot easier to get all the singers together. We know they will naturally gather at the back of the terrace near the middle.

We had the same on the popular side at central park but now singers are spread all over the stadium like at Widnes now with you guys.

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Quote: Ski "It's just about capturing hearts and minds now. It's easy enough to say that terracing is a better thing, but if people don't wanna do it, it won't happen.'"

I reckon the East Stand at Widnes has shown itself willing. One difficulty is that those who start the singing off seem to be grouped in two places at the back. If the fans who started off the singing were all grouped together that would make the kick start louder and people would be able to hear when to join in.

While chanting can be good, I think some fans will feel alienated if that's all we do. We need to sing as well (something Wigan fans don't really do).

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Quote: SaintsFan "I reckon the East Stand at Widnes has shown itself willing. One difficulty is that those who start the singing off seem to be grouped in two places at the back. If the fans who started off the singing were all grouped together that would make the kick start louder and people would be able to hear when to join in.

While chanting can be good, I think some fans will feel alienated if that's all we do. We need to sing as well (something Wigan fans don't really do).'"


Chants/Songs. It's all the same thing as long as it is noise. As long as it backs the boys.

For those who think it doesn't matter, Leon tweeted how moved he was by the reception he received on his return.

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Atmosphere a the new stadium will depend on how well the team is doing on the pitch.

If we are winning and up there in the league then it will he buzzing but if we have a bad run if form then it could be like a grave yard.

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Quote: Tony Stark "In fairness we've had the flags for years too, they just aren't as prominent at the Stobart as they were at the old girl. I honestly think the atmosphere will return once the bulk of the more vocal fans (and hopefully some new ones) return to one area at the new ground as opposed to being more sporadically situated in the seating at Stobart.'"


This is from the Stobart.


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Quote: Ski "No, no they don't. Having been to game with Sankt Pauli Ultras, and CSKA Sofia and Botev Ultra groups, they don't go out to create violence. An intimidating atmosphere, yes, but not violent.

A few mindless s who attach themselves for a ruckus is not the same as groups designed like 80s firms.'"


Who wants an intimidating atmospere? icon_eek.gif
I want an enjoyable, competitve, sporting atmosphere.
What the goons are doing is very different to the normal singing and cheering on of teams, and I and the people who sit near where I sit don't enjoy it and hope we don't do anything similar.

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Quote: saint at wire "Who wants an intimidating atmospere?
Probably worded that badly, an atmosphere that intimidates oppostion players.

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Quote: saint at wire "What the goons are doing is very different to the normal singing and cheering on of teams, and I and the people who sit near where I sit don't enjoy it and hope we don't do anything similar.'"

This is why I'm hoping that the group(s) who start off the singing include singing as well as chanting. There will be room for both IMO but so long as it's both. Too many fans will be alienated if only the ultras style chanting is started off.

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