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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I'm surprised no one has mentioned the worst decision of the afternoon and one which Saints scored from.
When Meli kicked the ball Whiting had his feet on the touchline when he caught the ball, and was therefore out of play. '"
Er, that's because that is not what happened.
When he got the ball he then put one foot on the touchline followed by the other. He didnt have the feet there before catching the ball.
Hence, as usual, you are talking out of your backside.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Er, that's because that is not what happened.
When he got the ball he then put one foot on the touchline followed by the other. He didnt have the feet there before catching the ball.
Hence, as usual, you are talking out of your backside.'"
Take your Saints specs off and watch it again.
Both feet are on the line when he catches the ball (I've just watched it again with mini). It should have been head and feed to Hull.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I'm surprised no one has mentioned the worst decision of the afternoon and one which Saints scored from.
When Meli kicked the ball Whiting had his feet on the touchline when he caught the ball, and was therefore out of play. The head and feed should have gone to Hull but went to Saints. Roby scored direct from that scrum and got Saints back unto the game.
I thought I saw it that way "live" on t.v.
I've just watched boots n all the tries and that's exactly what happened. Whiting did not carry the ball over the touchline.'" Similar to when Yeaman picked up the ball with his foot over the dead ball line.
Its swing and roundabouts, sometimes they go your way, sometimes they don't. Hull can't blame the ref for not putting the game to bed when they were 18-0 up.
As for the contraversial penalty. Washbrook did put his hands up to contest the ball and, had a penalty not been given, I'd have accepted that, but he didn't get anywhere near the ball and Ashe came down face first. You can only really argue against a decision if you can't at all see why it was given.
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| Rogues is spot on about the whiting decision and as regards Yeaman,I think you mean Briscoe,but if you look at that again in slow motion you will find that when he catches the ball his foot is just inside the dead ball line,watch it again.
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| OM, so you agree Whitings feet WERE on the line when he caught the ball?
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| Quote: Carlotti "Rogues is spot on about the whiting decision and as regards Yeaman,I think you mean Briscoe,but if you look at that again in slow motion you will find that when he catches the ball his foot is just inside the dead ball line,watch it again.'"
I may. I'll stand by my 2nd point though.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "OM, so you agree Whitings feet WERE on the line when he caught the ball?'" I'd have to watch it back, but I'm sure you wouldn't lie to me.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "OM, so you agree Whitings feet WERE on the line when he caught the ball?'"
you spend so much time on our forum trying to get your little wigan bias under our radar with your futile gibes . why not start a campaign on the goon site
entitled " Shouldnt the worlds undisputed greatest club have a ground of our own" we could all do with the rest from your rantings
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "OM, so you agree Whitings feet WERE on the line when he caught the ball?'"
Quick rule check: Assuming they were, does the fact that the ball had bounced in field rather than being on the full affect the outcome decision?
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Quick rule check
I don't think so. Think of it this way had Whiting stood completely outside the field of play and picked the ball up it would have been head and feed to Hull.
It was just a bad error from the touchjudge / referee and a costly one for Hull.
On the bias. Clarke, Wells, Carney, McDermott and O'Connor all thought that the last penalty was the wrong decision.
Are they ALL biased against Saints?
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "I'd have to watch it back, but I'm sure you wouldn't lie to me.'"
Oh yes he would. He can't bear the fact that we are STILL above Wigan in the league table.
I've watched that match twice. And it is quite clear that Whiting gets the ball then one foot goes on the touchline followed quickly by the other. The touchie put up his flag and the correct decision was made. It was quite clear to everyone with eyesight and a TV screen, except Rogues. Who probably needs to go to Specsavers. But it's ok, because he's old enough for a free prescription.
However, we are still owed a set of six.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't think so. Think of it this way had Whiting stood completely outside the field of play and picked the ball up it would have been head and feed to Hull.'" I realise that, there's just something that doesn't seem to flow right with that situaion for me.
Quote: Rogues Gallery "It was just a bad error from the touchjudge / referee and a costly one for Hull.
On the bias. Clarke, Wells, Carney, McDermott and O'Connor all thought that the last penalty was the wrong decision.
Are they ALL biased against Saints?'" Prob not, but despite all the hoo-harr, its not a 100% cut and dry desicion.
We've been on the end of plenty of dubious refs calls, as well as getting some our way. Its just part of the game. As clarky said, that just gets the headlines because it was right at the end.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Oh yes he would. He can't bear the fact that we are STILL above Wigan in the league table.
I've watched that match twice. And it is quite clear that Whiting gets the ball then one foot goes on the touchline followed quickly by the other. The touchie put up his flag and the correct decision was made. It was quite clear to everyone with eyesight and a TV screen, except Rogues. Who probably needs to go to Specsavers. But it's ok, because he's old enough for a free prescription.
However, we are still owed a set of six.'"
You need to change your tv or specs. The ball is still at head height and Whitings left foot is on the line (the front part is actually over) By the time he catches it both feet are on the line.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "You need to change your tv or specs. The ball is still at head height and Whitings left foot is on the line (the front part is actually over) By the time he catches it both feet are on the line.'"
Bye Rogues.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't think so. Think of it this way had Whiting stood completely outside the field of play and picked the ball up it would have been head and feed to Hull.
It was just a bad error from the touchjudge / referee and a costly one for Hull.'"
It was the correct decision IMO.
O Quote: Rogues Gallery "n the bias. Clarke, Wells, Carney, McDermott and O'Connor all thought that the last penalty was the wrong decision.'"
I was definatley the wrong decision, no two ways about it.
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