So you'd be happy for him to go Wigan?

At least he'll still be in rugby league.

Graham is in Saints top three props during the last twenty years.

Ward is the best I've seen, then it's a split decision between Graham and Fairleigh. The latter was more spectacular whilst the former has been outstanding in a Saints shirt for longer.

And it's not just a question of performances. Graham's professionalism, relationship with the crowd and leadership when the going got tough make him an easy candidate for "Legend" status.

Eastmond, on the other hand, is just a talented scrum half with lots of potential. He hasn't eclipsed or even approached the achievements of Long, Goulding or even Holding. Three players who did not achieve on the world stage what Fairleigh and Ward did.

7/10. Obvious, but not bad.

It's certainly not the players fault and is that the same with eastmond then?

Nobody can ever blame for taking the money as players only have 10/12 years to earn good money but let's treat all the players the same who decide to follow the pound signs!

Which takes me back to my first point that although i do treat all Rugby Legaue players who 'follow the pound' the same, Eastmond will not be a RL player come season end, therefore I and clearly alot of other fans are treating him differently.

Eastmond is leaving the club, and the sport, that has nurtured his talents from the age of 11, to join a sport that spent the best part of a century trying to destroy RL.

I'm not sure if it's the fact Kyle is leaving for Union that is the issue for alot of Saints fans... I think it's more his attitude of late that has turned them against him (or at least reduced their respect for him).

I don't dislike any player for trying to better their career, of course it's a great loss for rugby league - but there will be more, and no doubt better, Kyle Eastmonds.

I agree with you.
I would go further than you: why should we be saying that its fine for our captain to be non-committal to staying with us - even though he is no doubt be one of our top earners?
If he shows no loyalty to us, how can he expect loyalty to him?
I think he owes the club more than vice versa. The only difference is that he is handling himself with a bit more dignity than eastmond.

Also, going to the NRL somehow makes everything OK because he isn't going to the goons or dire? How twisted is that?
Remember gary connelly how he was treated AFTER he went. The same would happen to jammer regardless of what people may say now..

Spot on. It began with *ding* round two of Kyle Loves Himself when he instructed his agent to go to the press about how he wants to play for a Union team right up to *ding* round fifty five of Kyle Loves Himself when he was interviewed by Granada Reports about how he will give Saints 100% until he goes to The Bigger Sport.

I'm a realist, so if people get a better offer, because of money or oppotunity, I can accept that. I can even swallow a young star being poached off us after we'd created the player before he shows a decent retun, that's life and the system that yeilded him will give us plenty more in the future.

What I cannot stand is the attitide he's shown in interveiws since he signed, betlittling the establishment that made him and are due to be paying his wages for the next 6 months, playing half hearted, which he seems to be doing, taking little care not to crate a media circus which will obviously disrupt the squad and then (allegedly) giving rude gestures to the crowd when they take exception to the above.

If Kyle had talked to other clubs descreatly (which initially I think he did), then released a statement saying he was leaving thank's to a great oppotunity, then went about his business like we've seen him do in the past (and indeed show some of the form that has won him the union contact), then come the end of the season I'd wish him well. What's happened in the last few weeks though has made him appear to be completely disrepectful of the club that's made him, as well as the supporters and team members.

And do you know what? Despite his skills, I don't think Martin Johnson wants a 5ft4" winger playing for england, especially one who'll cry his eyes out when ever some one steps on him in a ruck. I'm sure he'll have plenty of success in club RU, but I hope he likes standing round on cold January nights when he'll only get the ball 3 times a game.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Kyle.

Talking to a player this morning at local u12s game and he told me that eastmond made a money gesture to crowd to imply he's going for very good money.

IMO that's not acceptable by a player and if true should be dealt with!