On this occasion, I know I am right. Ray French has done at least as much for the game as Eddie Waring, probably more actually. It's just that you aren't inclined to find out about it.

You clearly didn't read the bit where I said that Ray French took the authorities to court to enable boys who had played RL to be allowed to play RU, which is in exact opposition to what you said about Ray French threatening school boys about which code they played.

You just have a problem with Ray French for some reason. Yet you don't know anything about him except that he has commentated on the TV.

It is you that is so stubborn and closed minded! I was involved with the situation were Ray French Threatened Boy's who played Under 16 Rugby League, they would be Banned from playing for the school, I did not read it like you seem to do and know think you know everything, so Mr French at that time was Completely Two Faced! and that is Fact and Truth!

"All credit to the lad" as Ray would say.

Proof please

I'm stubborn, yes, because I know I'm right on this occasion.


I would suggest you be careful what you say. You are besmerching a person's character by your accusations.

Banned from playing what for the school? Union? Strengthens his case for a "services to RUGBY LEAGUE" award IMO

Anyway, there's a difference between "threatening" schoolchildren, and informing them of a school's policy (which he may not have had anything to do with devising or implementing, particularly given what SaintsFan has pointed out about his court case)).

NO! at that time Cowley only played UNION! and Mr French would not allow boys to play RUGBY LEAGUE, if they did they were Threatened they would not be selected for the school, yes it did frighten some boys, but others played on for us, West Park which was as strong playing Union never had such anti freedom of choice rules, players like Andy Platt played for the team I ran!

So this strengthens his case for Services to Rugby League?? What a Joker! - Wake Up and smell the coffee will you, so many just close their eyes to Truth and Fact!

As I just said to the previous poster for some reason you just choose to close you eyes to The Truth, how do you know you are right when this was a dispute between myself a colleague, the boys involved and Mr French? were you privy at the time to our discussions and heated debates? please tell Mr Know it All!

It would have been impossible for Saints Fan to be Cowley at that time.

Im still waiting for proof.

Saints Fan seems to want to call me a "Liar" which is libel, I spent all of my career so so first at The St Helens Reporter Group and then many more years at Radio City and I have never told lies!

I am not bitter against Mr French, as I have said from the start The Honours System should be more about people who do good works voluntarily and no financing gain of any kind, also those that are Heroes! and they are not TV, Soap Stars or Sports peoplel but ones who make great sacrifices in life.

Omg rofl. My irony detector just blew up.

As ive asked for twice already, proof please, or else GTFO cos you are being libellous

'Ms' know it all, if you don't mind.

So I have been told by Many People through private messages! and more about you! you do not mention the serious accusation you make of me being a "liar" then?? which is libel! be it Ms or Mr Know it all in your case Ms!

Propogandas, how do you provide proof of conversations please? I know and I am trained in media be it internet and legal precedents, the fact is Under 16 schoolboy's at Cowley at that time wanted to play rugby league, they should have been allowed the freedom to make that choice and their parents! not be told they Would not play for the school if they did, as I pointed out staff at that time at West Park were even more close to Union but never once objected and we even assisted them when possible, ie again Andy Platt played for us with about 4 other players from West Park because it was the game of the town they were born and brought up in!

I dont know, thats upto you, but at the moment you are putting the RLFANS website at risk with these libellous accusations.