There are quite a few who think like yourself jonny me included.

Because as a town, St Helens isnt as glamorous for blue chip sponsors so drop the name St Helens and voila! Unless of course you want the new stadium naming after some random recruitment firm who no one has ever heard of

You see you can talk sense when you try

Through my experience working in London for the last 5 years the vast majority of people I come across haven't the foggiest where St Helens is or what it's like, so I can't see dropping the name St Helens from the clubs title is going to make a blind bit of difference to our appeal to sponsors. Misleading them into thinking the club isn't from an industrial Northern town surely isn't the way to go. If the reason for the name change is due to some sort of misplaced embarrassment about the town it is totally unacceptable. St Helens has a great deal to be proud of.

I don't give two hoots what the stadium is called. I just want the town's rugby league team to be called St.Helens.

so.....any further developments on your KIT????

Nope.

But we don't expect any really as it's not Christmas yet. Saints usually announce the new kit after Christmas when everyone is broke and can't afford to buy a new Saints strip.

They released the home strip before christmas last year after listening to fans and I'm sure they'll do the same this year.

I think you are thinking of the previous year. They were late last year. Fans bought special cards with a number on that they took to the shop to collect their home strip when it arrived. Mine arrived in February! The previous year they got it right and managed to get the home strip out before Christmas. But I think that was the first time in 120 years that they had managed to do it.

I'm not holding my breath!

cheers maybe that will change, isc usually are quick with the kits!

That's as maybe. But Saints aren't!

im not sure that targeting potential fans outside of the North West would be the best strategy anyway.

at the end of the day 'Saints RL' or 'St Helens RLFC' is a business, its management needs to do whatever they feel is the best thing to ensure its long term survival.

The new ground is in St Helens, the only change is that the initial impact that new sponsors/fans will get is of the 'Saints RL' brand.

As a quick straw poll, look at all the usernames on here - how many people actually have the full club name in it, and how many have the word Saints.

While you're at it, ask what's the reason they're Saints fans, and I think you'll probably find that over 90% are either from St.Helens or have some family connection with the town.

You can start, what's your reason?