Like I said very very old management ploy - encourage people to be secretive to save the company money 44

I've never been told by any managment I've worked for not to talk about my wage with my co-workers/mates.we go out,we drink,we talk too....but iv never asked/been asked what each one earns and I wouldnt expect to either.
Anyway thats getting away from the point.I totally agree that it would be very hard to prove and that it isn't the players responsibility anyway,but that still dosn't mean your right and that they were all in on it!

well we might find out when some of the player retire and write books.

As for the management ploy it's ingrained now and implied, alot of current working practices that we think of as normal came from greedy middleclass men during the industrial revolution, and it just gets worse , start work at 16 and work till you literally drop at 70 .. and we all just accept that as normal lol, crazy really

And what do you suggest doing instead?

Well there isnt much you can do as an individual. The system works you to death literally and we all buy into it becuase we've been essentially brainwashed from birth almost. It's all about lifestyle and if you look at alot of countries in Europe you can see they have the old work/life balance alot more sussed out than we do.

Why will the young need to work until they 75?

I won't be!

depends what you call young. The retirement age will keep going up and up , it has too because were skint as a country and people are living longer. I'm 31 and I doubt I'll be able to retire on the state before I'm 70, according to the current rate of increase I will be at least 68.

Jesus, cheer up! Your only 31 and moaning you'll have to work until your 68!

I'm also 31 but I'm not worried il be working until I'm 68, I hope to be finished by 60 or before.