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Quote: Lippy "Would that not be when Lockers picked the ball up from the scrum and ran from the half way line, the Saints tackler was then penalised in the corner for holding down while the defence was reset. This is often deemed as a professional foul and ten minutes on the side line follows. I have not yet watched the game again but it also looked like a trip from where I was standing, accidental???'"


That's the one.
I see no one is agreeing with the Roberts sin binning when it is clear that Pryce dummied and then actually tapped the ball before Roberts made the tackle

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "That's the one.
I see no one is agreeing with the Roberts sin binning when it is clear that Pryce dummied and then actually tapped the ball before Roberts made the tackle'"


I think Thaler had a good game to be honest.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I see no one is agreeing with the Roberts sin binning '"

Um, they may not be agreeing with it on your board, but that's not the case here. The sin binning was spot on. He should have left alone but he didn't.

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Quote: 21-12 "I think Thaler had a good game to be honest.'"


He didn't have a good game, he was poor. And I mean poor for both teams. He missed forward passes, high tackles and the holding down was a disgrace by both teams.

Yes, Wigan do lie on and slow the play the ball down but if they get away with it then good on them. They are playing to the rules as the ref dosnt blow up.

It's not poor play by Wigan at all, it's clever play but it's poor by the refs.

I also think saints did a lot of holding down as well but not as bad as Wigan and hudds. It's not down to the clubs to stop it, it's down to the RFL.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Um, they may not be agreeing with it on your board, but that's not the case here. The sin binning was spot on. He should have left alone but he didn't.'"


I really don't understand the sin bin of Roberts, Pryce sets up to play, stops and complains about Mossop encroaching. Then plays the ball with his left foot on the floor, Roberts touches him and pulls back, Pryce then plays the ball a second time and Roberts grabs Pryce's arm as passing. Whistle goes and sin bin.

As far as I am aware playing the ball with the foot can be done once and dummying is not allowed either from a penalty or in general play. I don't get what Roberts did wrong, he moves to tackle a player who has played the ball and stops thinking the ball was not played, Pryce plays again and Roberts grabs his arm. I don't see at any point in this sequence of events where Roberts did anything which would be penalised, nevermind a sin-bin.

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Actually, I think Wigan's tactics were a little bit better than just "slow the play-the-ball down".

I think the tactic of "awesome defence" worked well, as well as "when attacking the line run at Wilkin, he'll tackle high for a penalty".

I reckon he gave away EIGHT penalties by himself, FOUR of which were for high tackles. To manage that without a binning must be a record.

Other tactics that worked were "Don't let Eastmond run the show" and "Cunningham's only big and heavy so don't let him be a threat to our tryline".

I think Thaler let Saints get away with a lot more than he let Wigan.

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Quote: Fishsta "Actually, I think Wigan's tactics were a little bit better than just "slow the play-the-ball down".

I think the tactic of "awesome defence" worked well, as well as "when attacking the line run at Wilkin, he'll tackle high for a penalty".

I reckon he gave away EIGHT penalties by himself, FOUR of which were for high tackles. To manage that without a binning must be a record.

Other tactics that worked were "Don't let Eastmond run the show" and "Cunningham's only big and heavy so don't let him be a threat to our tryline".

I think Thaler let Saints get away with a lot more than he let Wigan.'"

Ah, Fishta. It's you and your wild posts again. I'm so glad normality is restored. You are once more talking bollox.

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Quote: SaintsFan "Ah, Fishta. It's you and your wild posts again. I'm so glad normality is restored. You are once more talking bollox.'"


Am I?

Wilkin gave away a lot of penalties. We had awesome defence. Cunningham didn't breach our tryline. Eastmond wasn't allowed to run the show. You had players commit professional fouls who didn't get sin-binned, we had Roberts in the bin.

What, then, EXACTLY, was inaccurate about my post?

About the same as what your team will hopefully win this season. About the same as your knowledge of the game, it seems. About the same as what your opinion counts for.

ABSOLUTELY SOD ALL.

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Quote: 21-12 "I think Thaler had a good game to be honest.'"



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Quote: Fishsta "Wilkin gave away a lot of penalties. '"

He was one of many in my team who did that.

Quote: Fishsta "We had awesome defence. '"

As did we. You might have noticed that we both scored the same number of tries. Or perhaps that has passed you by?

Quote: Fishsta "Eastmond wasn't allowed to run the show. '"

That had nothing to do with Wigan. He's been like that a few times this season. He's learning his trade and he didn't have a good stand off beside him.

Quote: Fishsta "You had players commit professional fouls who didn't get sin-binned, we had Roberts in the bin.'"

Allegedly one Saints player committed a professional foul, but I have yet to see it or hear anything on the Sky re-run about it.

Quote: Fishsta "About the same as what your team will hopefully win this season. About the same as your knowledge of the game, it seems. About the same as what your opinion counts for.

ABSOLUTELY SOD ALL.'"

Ditto, petal.

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That's almost better. You actually argued with me instead of claiming I'm wrong when I'm clearly not.

However, you still didn't point out what was inaccurate about my post. In fact, you now AGREE with my post. Talk about a backtrack.

Quote: SaintsFan "He was one of many in my team who did that.'"


Right, we agree then.

Quote: SaintsFan "As did we. You might have noticed that we both scored the same number of tries. Or perhaps that has passed you by?'"


Yeah, I noticed you managed to do that when we were down to 12, and they were at a push!

Quote: SaintsFan "That had nothing to do with Wigan. He's been like that a few times this season. He's learning his trade and he didn't have a good stand off beside him.'"


Ah, the aforementioned Wilkin.

Quote: SaintsFan "Allegedly one Saints player committed a professional foul, but I have yet to see it or hear anything on the Sky re-run about it.'"


And your opinion on the numerous high tackles made by yourselves? Should they go unpunished as they did?

Quote: SaintsFan "Ditto, petal.'"


ROFL.

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Quote: Fishsta "However, you still didn't point out what was inaccurate about my post. In fact, you now AGREE with my post. Talk about a backtrack.'"

What?

You're talking bollox again. I just don't understand Wigoon.

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Quote: SaintsFan "What?

You're talking bollox again. I just don't understand Wigoon.'"


I say "Wilkin gave away a lot of penalties." You confirm this when you say "He was one of many in my team who did that."

"We had awesome defence." You say, "As did we." This confirms you agree, our defence was awesome.

"Cunningham didn't breach our tryline." Wisely, you didn't try to dispute that one.

"Eastmond wasn't allowed to run the show." You claim this had "nothing to do with Wigan." Was it not Wigan he was playing against? Was he actually playing Warrington? Or Salford? No? In that case, it had everything to do with Wigan. If he'd scored, would that have had anything to do with Wigan?

"You had players commit professional fouls who didn't get sin-binned, we had Roberts in the bin." Your retort: "Allegedly one Saints player committed a professional foul, but I have yet to see it or hear anything on the Sky re-run about it." This is discussed earlier in the thread, so you can just read that.

Basically, when you claim "bollox", as you so eloquently put it, which is taken to mean, "not true, rubbish, balderdash, lies", what you actually meant to say was, "I agree." because that is all you've done, with the exception of the last point.

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Let's draw a line under this $hite debate that's getting pretty boring now!

Wigan won and saints lost. Nothing between the two teams. Wigan took there chances, we never.

Wigan are top of the league and 4 points above us.

The is still long way to go yet. Done!!!

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Quote: St pete "Let's draw a line under this $hite debate that's getting pretty boring now!

Wigan won and saints lost. Nothing between the two teams. Wigan took there chances, we never.

Wigan are top of the league and 4 points above us.

The is still long way to go yet. Done!!!'"


Indeed there is.

Thing is, though, in the Super League era, normally Saints would have put a lot more points past us when we were down to 12.

That gives me a lot of confidence in our defence for the rest of the season.

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