Cool - I'll wait for you to come back in September as I tend to leave bookmarking internet message boards to people who say "owned" and use Twitter.

I can see the reasons for your pessimism and understand why it is shared by several on here, but I can't help but think our downfall is being exaggerated for the umpteenth year on the trot.

I happen to think this year will be a very exciting one for Saints fans - we'll be right up there.

Great thread chaps.

Translation: I haven't got the balls!

I'll take that bet

It did say ONE bet and that is already made, but feel free to donate to either to Mike Gregorys or Stve Precotts charities.

Now this has turned into a bit of a betting thread, does anyone know anywhere that takes bets on Man Of Steel at the start of the season?

www.oddschecker.com/rugby-league ... n-of-steel looks like SKYBET are the only ones at the moment

www.oddschecker.com/rugby-league ... n-of-steel looks like SKYBET are the only ones at the moment

Thanks.