No it's not. If he had knocked it onto him, i.e it physically became detached from Eastmond and hit Donald, it's a knock on. It didn't, he remained in contact with the ball throughout.

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I really have had a season with rugby and Youtube videos haven’t I?

Don’t know if I can surpass what I’ve done this season though!

They evened themselves out in that match alone.

Saints should have been tryless, Leeds should have been 1 try less.

Besides, it's not the first time a match, or a final for that matter, has been turned on a dubious call.

It just makes a change for it to go against St Helens for once.



Eastmond doesn't have control of the ball. He touches it forward, it touches Donald, that's a knock-on and a scrum to Leeds. Or at least, should have been.

But he doesn't ever let go of it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it cannot technically be a knock on if he never lets go of it.

Making up your own rules then are you fistula (means: An abnormal passage leading from a suppurating cavity to the body surface) - which describes you nicely)

to be honest looking at the game as a neutral i thought the game turned around when (saints at the time 9-10 up)
were defending on there own line under the sticks

i know i`m going to get lambasted for this

Cunningham (the statue`sk one) gave the silly penalty away
leeds put the ball over the bar
whether ther smith try was on or off side didnt matter as saints didnt score again would have still been leeds 11 saints 10

Some idiot who bought our tickets (my own fault for being lazy) thought it might be funny if they were in the east stand. So there I was surrounded by thousands of Leeds fans......

Anyway, as I watched it right in front of me Cunningham sticking his hand in I thought sh*t you've just allowed them to take the lead, that was stupid and did indeed turn the game. So I agree with you rickyj up to then, but if the offside had been given instead of the try it would have been a penalty to us and down the pitch we would have gone and then who knows, e.g.leeds bottle might have gone

I don't know why you're all whinging. The score was 11 10 at the time of the decision, so you were still losing.

Plus, it sort of makes up for Saints getting away with Chris Joynt's voluntary tackle, doesn't it?

Fair enough, we were. BUT it would have been nice to have seen the game run it's course properly rather than be cut off prematurely.

All Saints would have needed would have been a penalty inside the 40. It's not like we had to score 3 or 4 times in 10 minutes.

Cunningham should have been put in the bin for that pen! It was a stone cold pro foul. ganson gave saints enough 50/50's for there to be no beef. The bentham call was very tight, but was by no means a poor call, but was a 50/50 that went Leeds way?after all the rules say benifit of the doubt should always go with the attacking team. and that is a fact!

Well played both teams! It was a great final

Which is what happens imo. They both go for it, Eastmond touches it first, it then hits Donald and THEN Eastmond gathers it in and races away to score.

Was watching the game with my old man, and as soon as the video played first time, we both called offside. I'm a Quin, he's a Bull.

Odd decision, to say the least but sadly didn't really change the game. Thought you were the dominant side in the first 40, but it went wrong after the drop.