Chair,if you are talking Engage stats? i think you will find that Clough has played 2 more games tham Mason and done less carries but you have your oppinion i have Mine, and like i said i think Mason is as good as your present Frontrowers,and as for the fool that put him in the same bracket has Bibey,well what can i say i remember 2004 at Cardiff Mason was outstanding for you guys that day.

I think we should be the pioneers and get ITV to do 'Prop Idol'. Get a load of people to audition for the prop position and televise it. Cheryl Cole, Tom Cruise and Russell Crowe could be the judges and we could vote off a player each week until we've got the next Apollo/Baloo/Sonny.

i like the idea of having cheryl cole there, apart from that its not a bad plan

im pretty certain that London Broncos ran a 'prop idol' competition. However this was a good few years ago, before they became Quins

We would end up with Andy Coley insted of Cheryl Cole me thinks, were nto flush with coin like the RFU so couldnt afford her tight little camels toe .

I've never been convinced by Froddy at all when he has played for us, maybe i am being harsh, but i cant see him ever being an integral part of the pack.

I get the same feeling. Only seen the kid get smashed and injured. Still young of course and plenty time on his side, lets see if he blossoms blooms and bangs.

Alot of people thought that about Mason whilst he was here in fairness and though slightly differently alot of people do about Bryn, sorry Brian, but he's turning up every week and putting the effort in which is what we need during this difficult period.

At Frodsham's age he has alot of developing ahead playing wise as well as physically bulking up to first team size, we just need to bare with him for a short while to see how he goes with a run of games.

Bryn is a tryer, but he offers nothing whatsoever to take the work load of Jammer's shoulders, and that is part of the problem.

imo bryn has if anything gone backwards this season, which is disapointing, he is slightly bigger than cloughy but offers nothing like his go forward and cloughy isnt a prop!

Bryn Hargreaves is a fine player. We could do with two more of him. Cheap and sticks a good 8 metres on each time he gets the ball, decent 'd' too.

I'd chip in to see Cole's toe.

He was IMMENSE on Sunday. Made excellent yardage.

I too thought he performed well during his spells. In fact it seems the forwards all performed well head to head against their HG counterparts, but i thought it was when our backs took the ball up early in the tackle count that we struggled to make good yardage.

Hargreaves is our weakest prop by some distance. You only need to look at his stats to understand that. He makes the least number of yards per carry out of all our props, and is right at/near the bottom of carries (excluding Cayless).

Bryn Hargreaves 7.0m per 214 carries.
James Graham 7.2m per 562 carries.
Marue 8.15m per 250 carries
Tony P 8.76m per 307 carries.

Tony P's figures are unreliable as he switches to second row where there are easier yards.

Bryn is an excellent fifth prop, but is nowhere near being a fourth. If he starts next season as the latter we'll need a LOT of luck with injuries to be successful.