In terms of attendance are we just picking out this season or are we going to go on the past don't know how many years? Because Saints have had bigger average attendances than Hull, especially since 96. Happy to be corrected on that.

In the current squad, you have Lomax, Makinson, Percival, Swift, Roby, Richards, Savelio, Thompson, Greenwood, Fleming, Knowles with the likes of Bailey, Wellington, Davies, Ashworth also making appearances this season...they all came through the youth development. There is plenty of talent playing elsewhere in SL and the NRL who came through our youth system. Our u-19's have just won the Grand Final and gone through the regular season unbeaten.

'Maybe' Wigan as you put it, have also produced a conveyor belt of continuous talent.

Not sure on our youth development?

Off the top of my head - lomax, Makinson, Percival, swift, Jamie Foster, Lee gaskell, Jamie Ellis, Chris dean, Wellington, ashworth, Jamie Ellis, Eastmond, James Graham, James Roby, Keiron Cunningham, Paul Wellens, Greenwood, Thompson, Wheeler, Richards, Knowles, emm it, Josh Jones, savilo, dixon, Ashurst, tyrer, Armstrong

That's just off top my head so we not done bad

Its not about "biggest club" the term is "A Big Club" by way of stature in the game from the youngsters through to the senior professionals. In stature Bradford, Saints and Leeds have had long periods of domination, Wigan have had a couple of shorter periods of domination all at the highest competition level.
Hull and Warrington have been front runners throughout the season and are knocking on the door, but they have not been involved in a high percentage (60%) of play off games throughout the 19 years concept.

I,m assuming Youth Development (Saints) is just a wind up.

Warrington need titles. You can't lay claim to being one of the games biggest clubs if you haven't won a title in over half a century. Titles are needed, not just one but multiple. Since the inception of the grand final on only 3 occasions have wigan not been either in the grand final, or the grand final semi. (99,05,06). That's some serious sh*t, consistently being there or thereabouts. Saints have never not contested the playoffs. Leeds have won more Super league grand finals than any other team. Rome wasn't built in a day.

In all honesty, I would say that Saints are the bigger club but we're getting closer. But how many more seasons of crap recruitment, dull as dishwater rugby and falling attendances will it take for the perception of Saints as a big club to go? Anyway, as a Wire fan, I'm enjoying the excitement of quality signings and being in contention for all major honours over recent years. It certainly feels better to be on the way up than on the way down.

This!!!!!



You finished 6th last year (5th the year before)...do you know when the last time Saints finished 6th in the table mate? I'll tell you, the 1990-91 season. We still got to Wembley that year.. That's what it means to be a big club. To always be there or thereabouts. We finished 4th this year and most of the season we've been shouting for our coaches head because we demand a certain standard on a regular basis, season after season.

Warrington are a million miles away from sharing Wigan, Leeds and Saints pedestal.

agree 100% I'd add Bradford into that list as well. ...are you shouting for Wigan on Saturday?

Nah mate. It's a no win for me this weekend. It's like picking between gastroscopy (Wigan) or colonoscopy (Warrington).

I genuinely wish you an enjoyable evening though. It's going to be a brilliant game.

Bradford are nowhere near the three most successful clubs. Swinton and Salford have won more the same amount of championship as Bradford. Huddersfield have won more championships and more CCs than Bradford

talking super league era.

who gives a toss whos the bigger club and whats the prize for being the bigger club...nowt..any way it seems you`ve got over thursdays game..

The bigger question is why Warrington fans haven't?

They are the ones that started and continued most of the threads on this Saints forum.

You think they'd have more important things to consider.

we have saturdays final..hope you enjoy the final from your arm chair whilst our small club and its fans lock horns with injury ravaged wigan

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