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| Quote: Saint Simon "Watching the Wire/cas game and how clear is it watching Myler flourish with a decent 6 (lee Briers) supporting him? Are you watching Leon/Potter? this is what Kyle needs'"
Personally thought Myler didnt contribute much to Wires overall play. Granted he scored two trys but they were extremely opportunist. One was from a dropped ball and the other was from improvided play by Briers.
At no point did i see Myler contribute to putting his team mates into space, or put in dangerous attacking kicks.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Personally thought Myler didnt contribute much to Wires overall play. Granted he scored two trys but they were extremely opportunist. One was from a dropped ball and the other was from improvided play by Briers.
At no point did i see Myler contribute to putting his team mates into space, or put in dangerous attacking kicks.'"
I would agree. It was Briers in control of that game and he made some crafty plays. Loved that wind up at the end where everyone was anticipating a drop goal but he went for the line. When he decides to play he is good. I think it's going to be hard for Myler to really make an impact at Wire while Briers is still there.
Mind you, Castleford did give the game away in the second half, which was disappointing as I was hoping for 80 minutes of good rugby, not a series of cock ups by Castleford in the final 40.
Having said all of that, Kyle would still benefit from a halfback partner who can actually do the job, which clearly Pryce can't or won't (whichever). I do wish Potter would see the light on this and change things around.
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| Quote: SaintsFan "Having said all of that, Kyle would still benefit from a halfback partner who can actually do the job, which clearly Pryce can't or won't (whichever). I do wish Potter would see the light on this and change things around.'"
and thats my point, Kyle is much more talented than Myler, IMO, but just wont get the oppertunity to prove it with pryce in this run (6 months+) of form
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| Quote: Saint Simon "Watching the Wire/cas game and how clear is it watching Myler flourish with a decent 6 (lee Briers) supporting him? Are you watching Leon/Potter? this is what Kyle needs'"
Lee briers would be the perfect stand off for eastmond. He's very clever player.
Has anyone thought that maybe eastmond is the reason why leon has been rubbish?
Leon needs a long next to him as much as eastmond needs a briers. Maybe they just don't click. If that's the case then potter has to choose who stays in the halfback.
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| Quote: St pete "Lee briers would be the perfect stand off for eastmond. He's very clever player.
Has anyone thought that maybe eastmond is the reason why leon has been rubbish?
Leon needs a long next to him as much as eastmond needs a briers. Maybe they just don't click. If that's the case then potter has to choose who stays in the halfback.'"
yup, they dont seem to work together, thats why i'd try wheeler at for a few games, see what happens
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| Quote: St pete "Lee briers would be the perfect stand off for eastmond. He's very clever player.
Has anyone thought that maybe eastmond is the reason why leon has been rubbish?
Leon needs a long next to him as much as eastmond needs a briers. Maybe they just don't click. If that's the case then potter has to choose who stays in the halfback.'"
Not having an on form Long for the last 6 months of the season was the biggest reason for his lack of form IMO.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Not having an on form Long for the last 6 months of the season was the biggest reason for his lack of form IMO.'"
In that case would we prefer pryce with a good scrumhalf or eastmond with a good stand off?
To be fair on both its early days for them. They may well click in time.
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| Quote: St pete "In that case would we prefer pryce with a good scrumhalf or eastmond with a good stand off?'"
Eastmond at 7 for me.
Quote: St pete "To be fair on both its early days for them. They may well click in time.'"
True enough, a ball handling 13 woukd take some of the pressure off too.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "Eastmond at 7 for me.
True enough, a ball handling 13 woukd take some of the pressure off too.'"
IM told jon wilkin is a ball handling 13.
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| Quote: St pete "IM told jon wilkin is a ball handling 13.
I think he's shown the ability to do it, but hasn't really been given a run in playing the role or shown a great deal of consistency for me. He's no Scully, but he probably doesn't need to be.
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "
He's had one good game at leeds in the CC. One good game in 3yrs imo is not good enough.
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| Quote: St pete "He's had one good game at leeds in the CC. One good game in 3yrs imo is not good enough.'"
I think you're being a touch harsh on him there.
He's had many a good game, he's just not directed the team around like he did that day, but when you're being played as a running second rower like he has been how can you be expected to?
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| Quote: Billinge_Lump "I think you're being a touch harsh on him there.
He's had many a good game, he's just not directed the team around like he did that day, but when you're being played as a running second rower like he has been how can you be expected to?'"
I am prob being little harsh on wilkin.
To be honest i just don't rate him or like him.
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| Why can't Eastmond make a great scrum half? Comparing him at his age now to Lance Todd Legend at the same point in his career and it's Eastmond all the way for me. His kicking and passing game is superior to Long at the same stage and although he is a way from being the directing scrum half he has less to go than Lance Todd Legend did. In fact when Long first arrived and probably for the first four years or so the major criticism of him was in inability to manage a game and Saints around the field.
When Millward arrived it was noticeable how much Lance Todd Legend's game improved. With good coaching (and there's no reason to doubt Potter given what he did with Bosc and the Catalans half back's games) Eastmond will grow into the role. It's easier coaching that side of the game than it is improving passing, kicking and attacking the line. Certainly in the latter aspect Eastmond has that in buckets and you can't coach speed like Eastmond's either.
Eastmond and Tomkins at GB half backs for the next seven or eight years? Could be the best pairing we've seen in the modern era and will certainly be the best since Lance Todd Legend and Tommy God.
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| You have to give Kyle and the other young players time to develop their games.
Even the likes of Andrew Johns werent legends at 20 years old. Infact Johns was 21 before he started to get any sort of recognition. He was helped of course in developing his game by his half back partner and older brother Mathew Johns. Infact Andrew Johns was around 24-25 before he started picking up the major player awards in Australia eg "Dally M"
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