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Quote: Magic Superbeetle "a) if Masoe had connected with gellings head, it would of been exactly the same as every tackle as SOL did on Masoe (I don't know what Masoe did to hack SOL off but he did a fantastic job of frustrating him out of the game imo) - but this is my biggest pet hate about rugby fans - if your player did something illegal than this thing that actually happened would be okay - well Masoe didn't connect (unlike SOL did on several occasions without being penalised.)

b) how do you know it was Masoes intention? Seems to me Saints plan was to rattle the cage knowing Wigan would overstep the mark and it would throw them off the game plan. I don't think it was ever our intention to decapitate anyone, and even if it was, Gelling would not of been our target!

C) no, let's not be naive, I'm sure there are other coaches who try and be motivators in that way. However, Wane has been the most vocal and open about it. He was the first person I've ever known to associate the word "hate" towards a saints wigan Derby. I don't hate wigan, I always thought we were above that. By taking it to that level trouble is always going to start.'"

No it wouldn't. We got a penalty.

His intent was clear.

Agree with you about the hating thing. I posted at the time that it was unnecessary, and quite simply untrue. I hope he learns from all this because he hasn't come out of it at all well.

I don't believe that Wigan are any dirtier than any other team. The seasonal penalty count and sin bin and sending off count rather cinfirms this.

And just to add Maguire didn't start the third man in tactic it was Brown at Huddersfield. Good coaching I'm afraid to say.

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Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI
Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI


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Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.

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Quote: bewareshadows "Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.'"






Or maybe talk about Ken Gee, Joe Egan or Frank Collier perhaps.
Quite silly all this, as you say, not one mentioned would have hit an unconscious player like Flower did. Can't change the facts I'm afraid. c020.gif

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Quote: bewareshadows "Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.'"


Barrie Mac was a nice clean player also. Hock and Newton was lovely clean players

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Quote: bewareshadows "Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.'"

It isn't going off topic at all. Most of this thread has been turned into a general dig at Wigan and not about the original topic. I am merely pointing with good illustration that all clubs use aggressive defence which sometimes oversteps the mark. It's a long way down from that moral high horse!

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Quote: AboveusonlypieAnd just to add Maguire didn't start the third man in tactic it was Brown at Huddersfield. Good coaching I'm afraid to say.'"
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It was actually started by Mike Gregory, the late Terry Newton mentions it in his book
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It was actually started by Mike Gregory, the late Terry Newton mentions it in his book "Come Clean" the adopted tactics from Mike Gregory was to injure the opponent he had a name for it, something like "Tackle and Tear" or "Rip and Tear".
Terry Newton loved it because it was a big part of his game, Maquire and Wane have properly took it to another level.

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Maguire came from the Storm, who under Bellamy took wrestling and similar to whole new levels. The other teams and coaches mentioned are amateurs by comparison.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Maguire came from the Storm, who under Bellamy took wrestling and similar to whole new levels. The other teams and coaches mentioned are amateurs by comparison.'"

Yes but surely it must be Wigan's fault?

Didn't Craig Bellamy once play for Wigan? Coach them? Visit Wigan once?

Come on, didn't you know that Wigan are the only team in the world who play dirty?

You're not serious are you?

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Just heard that Flower minutes prior to kick off, was boxer punching the padding on the goal posts as though something was on his agenda, did anybody see or can confirm this.

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If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU
He only got 14 weeks reduced to 10
If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU
He only got 14 weeks reduced to 10


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Quote: bewareshadows "14 Weeks seems about right. Mid-season that would have taken him out of at least 14 games if not more, with cup games etc.

Reducing to to 10 is pretty weak from the RFU.'"



The RU is DOOMED. Mums won't let their children play it and sponsors will run a mile.

DOOMED I tell ye DOOOOMED.

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Quote: nohalfbacks "Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

Luckily this was 22 years ago, so has no relevance to anything Ben Flower related.

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