FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > St. Helens > Flower gets 6 month Ban
57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star1979No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68548_1368547004.jpg
"Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try No hell below us, above us only pie"(John Ono Lennon born Wigan 1940):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68548.jpg



Quote: Magic Superbeetle "a) if Masoe had connected with gellings head, it would of been exactly the same as every tackle as SOL did on Masoe (I don't know what Masoe did to hack SOL off but he did a fantastic job of frustrating him out of the game imo) - but this is my biggest pet hate about rugby fans - if your player did something illegal than this thing that actually happened would be okay - well Masoe didn't connect (unlike SOL did on several occasions without being penalised.)

b) how do you know it was Masoes intention? Seems to me Saints plan was to rattle the cage knowing Wigan would overstep the mark and it would throw them off the game plan. I don't think it was ever our intention to decapitate anyone, and even if it was, Gelling would not of been our target!

C) no, let's not be naive, I'm sure there are other coaches who try and be motivators in that way. However, Wane has been the most vocal and open about it. He was the first person I've ever known to associate the word "hate" towards a saints wigan Derby. I don't hate wigan, I always thought we were above that. By taking it to that level trouble is always going to start.'"

No it wouldn't. We got a penalty.

His intent was clear.

Agree with you about the hating thing. I posted at the time that it was unnecessary, and quite simply untrue. I hope he learns from all this because he hasn't come out of it at all well.

I don't believe that Wigan are any dirtier than any other team. The seasonal penalty count and sin bin and sending off count rather cinfirms this.

And just to add Maguire didn't start the third man in tactic it was Brown at Huddersfield. Good coaching I'm afraid to say.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1087No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Jul 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23355.jpg
:23355.jpg



Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI
Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj57GvEj2DI


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.

RankPostsTeam
International Star388
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2019Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: bewareshadows "Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.'"






Or maybe talk about Ken Gee, Joe Egan or Frank Collier perhaps.
Quite silly all this, as you say, not one mentioned would have hit an unconscious player like Flower did. Can't change the facts I'm afraid. c020.gif

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach16963No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Oct 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
44308_1279480467.gif
Mugwump mocking mental illness for a second time - "You are mentally ill and I can't indulge your madness any more" Utter disgusting abusive remark from a keyboard warrior:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44308.gif



Quote: bewareshadows "Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.'"


Barrie Mac was a nice clean player also. Hock and Newton was lovely clean players

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1087No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2024Jul 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
23355.jpg
:23355.jpg



Quote: bewareshadows "Yep not one of them stooped so low as to hit an unconscious player. But I'm sure if you want to go back over 20 years, then you will find plenty of Wiganers doing equally nasty shots. Skerritt had a whole school of dirty tactics.

But well done for going off topic.'"

It isn't going off topic at all. Most of this thread has been turned into a general dig at Wigan and not about the original topic. I am merely pointing with good illustration that all clubs use aggressive defence which sometimes oversteps the mark. It's a long way down from that moral high horse!

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Quote: AboveusonlypieAnd just to add Maguire didn't start the third man in tactic it was Brown at Huddersfield. Good coaching I'm afraid to say.'"
]

It was actually started by Mike Gregory, the late Terry Newton mentions it in his book
"

It was actually started by Mike Gregory, the late Terry Newton mentions it in his book "Come Clean" the adopted tactics from Mike Gregory was to injure the opponent he had a name for it, something like "Tackle and Tear" or "Rip and Tear".
Terry Newton loved it because it was a big part of his game, Maquire and Wane have properly took it to another level.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member9565No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2019Dec 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
fonds noir/Buzz Lightyear.gif
:fonds noir/Buzz Lightyear.gif



Maguire came from the Storm, who under Bellamy took wrestling and similar to whole new levels. The other teams and coaches mentioned are amateurs by comparison.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1979No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2018Jan 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68548_1368547004.jpg
"Imagine there's no heaven, it's easy if you try No hell below us, above us only pie"(John Ono Lennon born Wigan 1940):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68548.jpg



Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Maguire came from the Storm, who under Bellamy took wrestling and similar to whole new levels. The other teams and coaches mentioned are amateurs by comparison.'"

Yes but surely it must be Wigan's fault?

Didn't Craig Bellamy once play for Wigan? Coach them? Visit Wigan once?

Come on, didn't you know that Wigan are the only team in the world who play dirty?

You're not serious are you?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you. Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG



Just heard that Flower minutes prior to kick off, was boxer punching the padding on the goal posts as though something was on his agenda, did anybody see or can confirm this.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



Just cancelled my sky sports for the winter, so can't see the game anymore.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1029
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Fish/PDT_Fish_34.gif
:Fish/PDT_Fish_34.gif



If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU
He only got 14 weeks reduced to 10
If you think Flowers punch was bad have a look at this youtu.be/9pmCb5HtiVU
He only got 14 weeks reduced to 10


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
47035_1386433761.gif
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif



RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1250
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024May 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
29146.gif
Keep goin wit yed down:29146.gif



Quote: bewareshadows "14 Weeks seems about right. Mid-season that would have taken him out of at least 14 games if not more, with cup games etc.

Reducing to to 10 is pretty weak from the RFU.'"



The RU is DOOMED. Mums won't let their children play it and sponsors will run a mile.

DOOMED I tell ye DOOOOMED.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1848
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2016Apr 2015LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
69484_1366994160.png
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_69484.png



Quote: nohalfbacks "Maybe we should use this as a yard stick:

Luckily this was 22 years ago, so has no relevance to anything Ben Flower related.

57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint
57 posts in 5 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Billinge_Lump , Saint Simon , BackrowSaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.419921875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
2411
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
4060
12m
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
13
14m
Tonights match v HKR
ChampagneSup
74
14m
Season tickets
Listenup94
7
14m
TV Games - Not Hull
Mild Rover
2898
30m
Rumours thread
Butcher
2439
39m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40180
40m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62586
Recent
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Seth
10091
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
47s
Rumours thread
Butcher
2439
53s
Fev H Play Off
Rafa9
20
1m
2025 membership/renewals
The Dentist
42
1m
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Listenup94
1
1m
TV games not Wire
100% Wire
3555
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Mild Rover
2898
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
2411
1m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
1m
Isa 1 year extension
[Gareth]
8
2m
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Bobby Digita
10
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Listenup94
1
TODAY
Sam Burgess
Bobby Digita
6
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
ChampagneSup
74
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
[Gareth]
8
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
northernblok
2
TODAY
Championship Awards
Butcher
7
TODAY
Season tickets
Listenup94
7
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
13
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Rafa9
20
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
BarnsleyGull
19
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Howfenwire
11
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
rubber ducki
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
186
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
769
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
811
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1217
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1442
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1193
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1605
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1306
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1529
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1703
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2052
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1658
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1697
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2024
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1720
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.64M +23,270 ↑22280,13114,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 TODAY
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R29
17:30
Wigan
v
Leigh
 TOMORROW
     National Rugby League 2024-R31
09:30
Melbourne
v
Penrith
       League One 2024-R26
15:00
Keighley
v
Hunslet
       Championship 2024-R29
15:00
Bradford
v
Featherstone
15:00
York
v
Widnes
     Womens Super League 2024-R16
16:30
York V
v
St.HelensW
 Sun 27th Oct
     Mens Internationals 2024-R2
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
 Sat 2nd Nov
     Womens Internationals 2024-R2
12:00
ENGLAND W
v
WALES W
     Mens Internationals 2024-R3
14:30
England M
v
Samoa M
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Sat 5th Oct
SL
17:30
Wigan-Leigh
Sun 6th Oct
L1
15:00
Keighley-Hunslet
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
NRL
09:30
Melbourne-Penrith
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Fri 4th Oct
SL 29 Hull KR10-8Warrington
Sun 29th Sep
L1 25 Rochdale26-46Hunslet
CH 28 Barrow24-26Widnes
CH 28 Bradford50-0Swinton
CH 28 Dewsbury28-8Sheffield
CH 28 Wakefield72-6Doncaster
CH 28 Whitehaven23-20Halifax
CH 28 York16-6Featherstone
Sat 28th Sep
CH 28 Toulouse64-16Batley
SL 28 Warrington23-22St.Helens
NRL 30 Penrith26-6Cronulla
Fri 27th Sep
SL 28 Salford6-14Leigh
NRL 30 Melbourne48-18Sydney
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 28 729 335 394 44
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 28 580 404 176 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 26 1010 262 748 50
Toulouse 25 744 368 376 35
Bradford 26 678 387 291 34
York 27 655 469 186 30
Widnes 26 551 475 76 29
Featherstone 26 622 500 122 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Swinton 27 474 670 -196 18
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
2411
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
4060
12m
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
13
14m
Tonights match v HKR
ChampagneSup
74
14m
Season tickets
Listenup94
7
14m
TV Games - Not Hull
Mild Rover
2898
30m
Rumours thread
Butcher
2439
39m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40180
40m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62586
Recent
Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Seth
10091
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
47s
Rumours thread
Butcher
2439
53s
Fev H Play Off
Rafa9
20
1m
2025 membership/renewals
The Dentist
42
1m
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Listenup94
1
1m
TV games not Wire
100% Wire
3555
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
Mild Rover
2898
1m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
leeds owl
2411
1m
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
1m
Isa 1 year extension
[Gareth]
8
2m
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
13
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Who do you want to win the Grand Final
Bobby Digita
10
TODAY
Worst semi
Barstool Pre
5
TODAY
2025 TRANSFER AND RETENTION RUMOURS
Listenup94
1
TODAY
Sam Burgess
Bobby Digita
6
TODAY
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fightback To Secure Grand Final Spot
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Squad 2025
Nat (Rugby_A
1
TODAY
Tonights match v HKR
ChampagneSup
74
TODAY
Isa 1 year extension
[Gareth]
8
TODAY
2024 IMG gradings
northernblok
2
TODAY
Championship Awards
Butcher
7
TODAY
Season tickets
Listenup94
7
TODAY
Best Semi
sir adrian m
13
TODAY
Ben Condon is a Leopard
Jack Gaskell
1
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Warriors
Vancouver Le
8
TODAY
Any decent RL reads for me hols
norbellini
1
TODAY
Championship Play Off Final
PopTart
3
TODAY
Man of Steel
matt_wire
8
TODAY
Guest appearance
AgbriggAmble
2
TODAY
Squad for HKR
MorePlaymake
28
TODAY
Proposed rule changes 2025
leeds owl
13
TODAY
Fev H Play Off
Rafa9
20
TODAY
Whose going for a beer in Wigan Saturday
Deeeekos
2
TODAY
Play-off semi-final
BarnsleyGull
19
TODAY
Coach of the Year
Howfenwire
11
TODAY
Greatest game ever at HJ
Fantastic Mr
10
TODAY
World Club Challenge
Barstool Pre
1
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition Hull KR Away Play Off Semi
rubber ducki
14
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
186
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
769
Leigh Leopards Make Play Off P..
811
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
1217
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
1442
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
1193
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
1605
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
1306
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
1529
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
1703
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
2052
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1658
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1697
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
2024
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1720


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!