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| The issue lies on who has responsibility for which tasks - and Brown needs to earn his corn by devising a gameplan based on these two's respective strengths.'" ]
We could get Wilkin to throw a testimonial for the play off's whilst Lance just sits quietly in the background?
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| Quote: bewareshadows "
Lance has not built a partnership with anyone, so it's not like we would be breaking up a critical partnership.
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I don,t think Lance will ever create a partnership with anyone his mindset is one of full back, if he gets his head right he could be a good support player.
Can,t understand why Brown has not looked at Swift as a workable option, fast, elusive, un predictable to the opposition but lacking a kicking game, maybe with Walsh and his kicking game Brown might look at it, Swift did sign up as a stand off so its not as if he would turn into another Lance scenario.
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| Quote: Judder Man "I don,t think Lance will ever create a partnership with anyone his mindset is one of full back, if he gets his head right he could be a good support player.
Can,t understand why Brown has not looked at Swift as a workable option, fast, elusive, un predictable to the opposition but lacking a kicking game, maybe with Walsh and his kicking game Brown might look at it, Swift did sign up as a stand off so its not as if he would turn into another Lance scenario.'"
Don't let Yellow G see you writing that.
Well just been to the game, we where well on top and in control. But we missed GOB's direction.
Once we lost our shape it was a matter of off the cuff and the kicking on the 4th crept back in during the 2nd half.
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| He was a natural half back , but Wilkin was still the main man in terms of team direction. Having GOB took some pressure off him and gave him a couple of months to work on his halves game and build confidence. Hohaia's not very good a 6, but he'll give a bit of threat, pity he's so dire in defence.
No chance of seeing Charnock used? I don't suppose so.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "He was a natural half back , but Wilkin was still the main man in terms of team direction. Having GOB took some pressure off him and gave him a couple of months to work on his halves game and build confidence. Hohaia's not very good a 6, but he'll give a bit of threat, pity he's so dire in defence.
No chance of seeing Charnock used? I don't suppose so.'"
Or Yates, it is disappointing that we are choosing to waste time with Hohaia who is a dud rather than giving either of them a bit of gametime
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| If Wheeler is available for the Warrington game, he should play over Hohaia.
Hohaia has shown nothing since coming back in. I'd rather go with wheeler - if he's fit of course.
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| We've won two in a row with Hohaia in at 7. He's nowhere near match fit which contributes to his defensive deficiencies. There was no real problem with his defence last year. The pressure is off him as the organiser with Wilkin in at 6, he can kick if he wants to, but he isn't the player taking us round the field. Once he's up to speed he'll do a better job for us than either Charnock or Yates would do at this moment in time. Regardless of the odds, I'm glad the club haven't written off the season, unlike many fans it seems.
The issue for us with him at half back was his combination with Lomax, both are runners and neither gave the team any direction. He's a functional player at half back, but so was GOB.
I'm amazed anyone is still thinking of picking Wheeler, when was the last time he finished a game, never mind played 2 in a row? He can have all the talent in the world, but if he can only play 40 minutes he's a liability.
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| Quote: Albion "If Wheeler is available for the Warrington game, he should play over Hohaia.'"
I disagree. Wheeler has been out for most of the season so would be totally unfit, match playing wise. Also, we have hardly seen him play in the halves; he has played a lot in the centre when he has been fit enough to actually play. Thirdly, we beat Warrington last time out with Hohaia in the halves and if he covers as he did for his try against Wakey then as a player with lots of pace plus a good swerve he could be useful, assuming our pack front up, obviously!
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Don't let Yellow G see you writing that.
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I give up!! Haha
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| Quote: SaintsFan "I disagree. Wheeler has been out for most of the season so would be totally unfit, match playing wise. Also, we have hardly seen him play in the halves; he has played a lot in the centre when he has been fit enough to actually play. Thirdly, we beat Warrington last time out with Hohaia in the halves and if he covers as he did for his try against Wakey then as a player with lots of pace plus a good swerve he could be useful, assuming our pack front up, obviously!'"
Hohaia is a horrible halfback unlike of Gary Wheeler who is a natural 6 , sadly though Wheeler seems unable to stay fit so would be a massive risk. I would be tempted with Wheeler on the bench but that would mean dropping wellens and thats just not going to happen
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| Looks like he's playing against you on Friday.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Looks like he's playing against you on Friday.'"
Urgh!! After spending 2 months in our camp and learning our ways, he's now going to use that knowledge against us!
Oh well, maybe someone will flatten him off the ball so he gets carried off?
In all seriousness, I hope he comes and gives the Saints species a clap at the end, I'm sure they'll show their appreciation for his effort for us. That's if he makes it to 80 minutes, mind
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5002.jpg sad to say I must be on my way
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Urgh!! After spending 2 months in our camp and learning our ways, he's now going to use that knowledge against us!
Oh well, maybe someone will flatten him off the ball so he gets carried off?
In all seriousness, I hope he comes and gives the Saints species a clap at the end, I'm sure they'll show their appreciation for his effort for us. That's if he makes it to 80 minutes, mind
To be fair he has spent most of that 2 months unconcious so not sure how much he will have picked up
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| I don't think O'Brien playing for them will be particularly disadvantageous for us. He may know our plays but he didn't really excel in the halves and dropped a lot of ball, so his knowledge of Saints can't be that great or he'd have slotted in much better.
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| Quote: St. Rughead "He may know our plays but he didn't really excel in the halves and [idropped a lot of ball[/i, so his knowledge of Saints can't be that great or he'd have slotted in much better.'"
In which case he slotted in very well.
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