it is actually Ernesto Guevara.

Well there you go good job I did not say nice avatar of Che Guevara....

Lenin was not a "mod" he believed that the people should be informed of everything and be given the power to make the decisions. It was after his death that Stalin took over and surpressed everything that was a threat to his authoritarian rule, keep the people ignorant and tell them only want you want them to know.

Interesting thread de-rail!

Whilst I have a lot of time for Lenin and his achievements it is false to suggest he wasn't capable of keeping secrets, not to mention autocracy.

Possibly the most radical thread de-railment I've seen in a while and it's caused by a mod. Oh the irony.

And my avatar . Great thread

Any idea why this hasn't been annouced yet? Thought there was supposed to be a press conference on Tuesday?

Bank Holiday?

We needed to talk about something this Manu announcement is the most unannounced announcement ever. I'll give myself a warning for derailing.

Although I did find the brief history of communism quite entertaining as an interlude.

It seams on Redvee they are talking about a NZ prop who maybe being lined up. Could explain Pete's statement about Manu being put on ice, although a NZ prop would not effect Manu in terms of quota players it may impact salary wise.

But then to get a NZ prop we would have to have a firm commitment from a player that they want out of their contract.

Has Manu's signing being announced yet? The Rhinos were also interested in getting him for 2013 but it's all gone quiet. Is he still going to Saints or have your plans changed?

If Manu saw the games at the weekend then I don't think it's too tough a choice...

But the question is does Brown want him????

I've heard Manu has already signed his contract and picked out his house and the NZ prop we are chasing is Ukuma Ta'ai but now looks unlikely to happen as a few NRL clubs are also in for him.

So who is leaving if we're making offers to non-exempt NZ players?

Anyone slightly worried about the delay in announcing Turner & Manu? Saints have a history of failing to tie up 'done deals'.

As a Rhinos supporter there are rumours that Gary H at the 11th hour signed up Manu but don't know how true the rumour is? I hope so as Manu is the best second row in Super League!