We just need to give the team plenty of vocal backing to lift a couple of the unexperienced lads. We still have plenty of experienced players in our team today, Lance whether he plays 1 or 9 is playing fairly well and has more confidence this year. Wilkin and Wello will hold this team together our biggest worry is our defence in the first 20 mins to try and get a hold on the game instead of a catch up one.

We don,t really know if Widnes have had a tough game or a lazy one, I expect a close game with 6 points difference either way.

It's about giving players rests who need rests. Tommy plays wing so not really doing much work. I'm surprised to see Turner rested tbh.

Exactly, can't understand why people have pressed the panic button after one defeat. We have had a tough run of games and an even tougher one this Saturday.

Fair enough if we lose today (probably expected) and get a good hiding on Saturday then it would be understandable.

At the start of the season anybody would av taken 9 from 10 wins at this stage. Total over reaction by some people.

We beat wigan last season simply because they had a cup semi week after which only against London. The leeds game this week plus the 2 difficult fixtures against Hudds and cas had a big say in Fridays result IMO.

Agree turner should be in the team! I'm assuming he was one of the players brown referred to when saying certain players need to step up.

Tommy more than anyone deserves a rest but your right in the fact that his position needs less work rate than most others but I would still protect him from picking up a knock.

I see no reason why any backs needed resting apart from lomax is is all over the field.

Obviously it's more of not getting players injured for next Saturday rather than players needing a rest.

Best post I've read on here or redvee post the Wigan game, bravo sir.

Saturday is the big test for us now, lets see what character this side has.

The reaction isn't about the loss though is it? It's about the manner of the performance, particularly in the second half. 'Gutless' is a word I have read to describe it and I'd say that pretty much summed up the team's so-called efforts in the second half, a total contrast to matches against Cas and Leeds.

This was Wigan, at home, on a glorious day in front of a packed stadium and we were well in the game at halftime. But we just gave up. That's what the reaction is about, not that we lost.

If we take 2 points today then I'll be happy with Easter. Sure enough the team let us, the club and themselves down big time on Good Friday but at the end of the day we can't win every week. It hurts it being against the pies but it's two points lost no matter who it was against.

I can't see us winning today, in fact I think we in for a hammering but a win against Leeds is more important than any Easter games.

If we lose them all, it's a disaster.

At this stage in the season there are only so many high intensity games you can play in a row (particularly when the opposition can target it given an easier run) - minus a few players having stinkers (lms, turner etc) we actually weren't far off (despite the smug superiority from t'other side) there were numerous occasions we had created an overlap/ found a gap etc but individual, unforced errors cost us dear. It was always going to happen eventually.

Also think said smugness has added to the frustration in the reaction from people on here ...

6. Lance Hohaia; 2. Tommy Makinson, 4. Josh Jones, 24. Gary Wheeler, 26. Matty Dawson; 17. Paul Wellens, 12. Jon Wilkin; 8. Mose Masoe, 36. Matty Fozard, 25. Anthony Walker, 11. Sia Soliola, 23. Joe Greenwood, 28. Luke Thompson.
Subs: 10. Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook, 29. Jordan Hand, 31. James Tilley, 33. Andre Savelio.

Not as bad as I feared and should probably still manage to beat a tired Widnes side. I do hate seeing Wellens in the halves though. Would rather we bring back Superstar Stuart Howarth and give him a go there.

No, no please god no! Leave Howarth where he is, and never to there again!

It is indeed, and the widnes team is:

1. Rhys Hanbury; 20. Paddy Flynn, 14. Chris Dean, 3. Cameron Phelps, 2. Jack Owens; 6. Kevin Brown, 28. Grant Gore; 10. Ben Kavanagh, 15. Lloyd White, 18. Paul Johnson, 17. Danny Galea, 12. Danny Tickle, 24. Macgraff Leuluai.
Subs: 13. Hep Cahill, 16. Willie Isa, 19. Adam Lawton, 25. Alex Gerrard.

Ah time for the pleasant tones of Ray French.

Good luck to the boys and all who go to the match today.

Could not justify 3 tanks of petrol to St. Helens over the weekend.