The difference is last year we wouldn't of been able to turn it around at half time. Or score as many tries as we have.

Hull only finished a couple of points behind us last year and are probably looking to finish 6th again this year. They seem a much more competent team, capable of following a game plan. There's a big gap between the top 5 and the rest, but not so big that complacency is acceptable. The coach identified the problem, and we should see it rectified in the coming weeks.

There's no point throwing up the white flag yet!

I'm not throwing the white flag or calling us but we are far from perfect and some people getting far to carried away.


It's great to get the win when not played well, last year we couldn't do that. It's great to be putting points on the board and not the bore fest we had at langtree last year.

Agreed, though I don't think I've seen too many people (that are saints fans) getting carried away. There are definitely things to improve our game, but on the showings so far, I feel we're capable of doing that - and it's a key difference from other years, where I've just felt like we've struggled.

Attitude was a big thing last night, and hopefully we won't see that again (and from the way brown was talking it won't) - our style of play was still impressive given the conditions though!

We gave hull an opportunity (as we always seem to do) but we rescued the situation. The coach needs plaudits for that, and the senior players are getting credit too. Hopefully we can kick on and build some momentum.

Are you from Widnes ?

How very dare you what makes you ask such a question!?

I play in widnes (all too infrequently now given I live and work in London - I haven't updated in a few years and I definitely don't qualify for u18s any more!) I still keep check on the scores though

I'd completely forgotten it was there given I can't see signatures (or profile pics) on the mobile version, and I only ever get on here when I'm on my iPad!

Back on topic, you don't win anything for perfect displays in February!

Top of the league on points difference despite the shoddy defence,

Div by name, div by nature.

Classy.

Just messing.

The conditions played a part last night. The wind was obviously strong and blowing towards the West Stand. In the first half there were a number of penalties when we tapped rather than kicking to touch when usually we'd have gained a further 10-20 yards. It's also noticeable that Hulls 'world class' kicking game in the first half disappeared in the second, whereas our dire kicking game in the first improved massively in the second

I thought it was a strange decision to run with no props for 20 minutes in the first half, I thought we'd need the extra grunt to gain yards given the lack of kicking.

Hull split the defence a couple of times, however for the most part I wasn't that worried when they had the ball, they mainly played to complete sets rather than chancing their arm until they went behind and by that time it was too late for them. I think they are a decent side, but lack a touch of class to really trouble anyone in the play offs.

I don't think we're firing on all cylinders, but it's only the second game of the season. I'd be more worried if we were at this stage.

I can see a big year for saints my prediction for gf winners, always supported you guys in play offs obviously when cas arnt in it gonna my first visit to langtree prk this year hoping atmos is good like knowsley road was.

Bizzare i thought, and our game fell apart then too