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That should be our best 17 next year imo

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In terms of Meli's error-proneness, I can only compare him to Ainscough at wigan. I know which one I'd rather have in my team, Aisncough every time.

TBH if you look at the way Sts have had to play over the past two seasons, its remarkable how well you've gone with the lack of pace out wide. Hopefully Soliola will add some punch in once centre, but had you got the likes of a Peter Fox or similar on each flank Sts would have a lot more points in you. In terms of Meli himself, I feel very sorry for the guy. He obviously tries hard, but frankly GFs are where players need to stand up and be counted and not make huge stuff-ups.

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Quote: BrisbaneRhino "In terms of Meli's error-proneness, I can only compare him to Ainscough at wigan. I know which one I'd rather have in my team, Aisncough every time.

TBH if you look at the way Sts have had to play over the past two seasons, its remarkable how well you've gone with the lack of pace out wide. Hopefully Soliola will add some punch in once centre, but had you got the likes of a Peter Fox or similar on each flank Sts would have a lot more points in you. In terms of Meli himself, I feel very sorry for the guy. He obviously tries hard, but frankly GFs are where players need to stand up and be counted and not make huge stuff-ups.'"


very true

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wello by an even larger country mile for me

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If Wigan dont want Ainscough we should be sniffing imo - he'd be cheaper than either of the 2 we have and I'd rather have a young lad with the potential and fantastic pace and finishing ability than a carthorse and a liability on the wings. Wigan have Richards and Roberts on good wonga so you never know ....

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Quote: No1 Saint "If Wigan dont want Ainscough we should be sniffing imo '"


i agree. but i'm not sure if it was wigan(heirachy sp?) that did'nt want to play him or noble? he started like a house on fire scored tries for fun and then *BUMP* nothing.... icon_rolleyes.gif i.m.o i feel he was very hard done by? but that's only my opinion as i dont know anything about the internal side of wigan warriors r.l.f.c or come to think of it brian noble's mind

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Quote: chris_joynt's_barber "i agree. but i'm not sure if it was wigan(heirachy sp?) that did'nt want to play him or noble? he started like a house on fire scored tries for fun and then *BUMP* nothing....
I was told it was a couple of things (by Wiganers) firstly his contract meant that after so many appearances he would get a pay rise - this might have had an effect on the goons salary cap and the other thing I heard was that Noble just didnt fancy him as a player ... both seem plausable and if you factor in the fact they brought in Roberts on a long term deal and Richards is pretty much nailed on for a spot on the other wing it looks like Ainscoughs opportunities might be limited (unless he wants to drop down a division on a dual contract). I believe Leeds have a top young winger too who's actually out of contract atm

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Quote: Carlos Alberto "I'm fed up hearing this. The guy - however great going forward he is - is an utter incompetant clown when it comes to dealing with pressure situations defending. He can bugger off now for all I care.'"


Pretty much sums it up for me.

He has blundered two GF's now, and like Gardner has the capacity to time it for big occasions and at critical times in the game.

We have not had a decent winger since Albert.

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There's no point criticising Meli and then wishing for Ainscough. He could score thirty tries a season but if he costs the GF what's the point?

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I thought Meli had a great game, other than his two mess-ups. And to be fair, if Maurie hadn't done his stupid rubbish attempt to offload, Leeds wouldn't have had the ball and Meli wouldn't have popped it up for Leeds to score.

There are a lot more players to blame than Meli.

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Ahh Tesco Building St Helens & Warrington's future Destroying Wigans past "Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower":



Quote: Mugwump "There's no point criticising Meli and then wishing for Ainscough. He could score thirty tries a season but if he costs the GF what's the point?'"


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We have to make two changes for next year if they like it or not icon_confused.gif:

Meli has to come of the wing so maybee put him in the second row
And Leon has to make way for Wheeler at 6 so put Pryce at wing or fullback Leon has been pants this year icon_rolleyes.gif

And Saints decision to have 3 Hookers next year icon_biggrin.gifOH:

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Meli did a Meli! But, when he does he sure does do it in style!

I'm not a particular fan of his BUT surely this one match shouldnt reflect the season he has had, which IMO has seen him be the most improved!

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I said on another thread we'd do as well playing Armstong on the wing as Gardner.

Whilst he finishes strongly close to the line, he does lack the pace of a decent winger. He also had a purple patch around 2006 when he was virtually mistake free under the high ball - this seems to have deserted him.

Meli, while he does make some monumental gaffs, I hold in higher regard, he does return well and can finish and create oppotunities unlike the Arrow from Barrow. Let's face it, Sully was equally inept if you kicked a ball at him. The real problem for me is that if you took Meli out of our team, we'd be scoring even less points than we are now.

So, if we were to have a back line of Wellens, Lomax, Gidley, Wheeler, Armstrong, Pryce & Eastmond - would we be doing better or worse?

Maybe a Freddieesque venture to the 2nd row wouldn't be a bad call.

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Quote: Offside Monkey "I said on another thread we'd do as well playing Armstong on the wing as Gardner.

Whilst he finishes strongly close to the line, he does lack the pace of a decent winger. He also had a purple patch around 2006 when he was virtually mistake free under the high ball - this seems to have deserted him.

Meli, while he does make some monumental gaffs, I hold in higher regard, he does return well and can finish and create oppotunities unlike the Arrow from Barrow. Let's face it, Sully was equally inept if you kicked a ball at him. The real problem for me is that if you took Meli out of our team, we'd be scoring even less points than we are now.

So, if we were to have a back line of Wellens, Lomax, Gidley, Wheeler, Armstrong, Pryce & Eastmond - would we be doing better or worse?

Maybe a Freddieesque venture to the 2nd row wouldn't be a bad call.'"


But Sully could finish from anywhere on the pitch. Neither Meli nor Gardener are even close to Sullivan in terms of classic winger finishing.

Had Sully had Gardner's opportunity on Saturday it would have been a try.

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People are blaming Meli for making mistakes then suggesting we have a look at Ainscough.

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