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Quote: Mugwump "How can you compare an established, fully developed (physically and mentally) player with a rookie who has the body of a kid (and [istill[/i does, BTW)?

Stupid idea.'"


Hardly a stupid idea when they are the same age.

I would also like to offer my apologies for daring to disagree with the majority view on here. I don't ram my opinion down others throats like quite a few on here do. I was also under the impression I lived in a free country where I had the right to my own opinion. I know Saint Simon believes this site is a dictatorship but up to now I thought he was in a minority of 1.

Just goes to prove the old saying: Power corrupts, Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I you no longer wish me to contribute to discussions on these boards just let me know. I just thought this was a FORUM FOR DISCUSSION.










Maybe not!

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Quote: Top Saint "I would also like to offer my apologies for daring to disagree with the majority view on here.'"


I got the impression that the majority view is they don't like Gaskell which is why the argument for him is so strong from those who can see the differential talent he has.

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Quote: Top Saint "Hardly a stupid idea when they are the same age.'"


So what? At thirteen I was nearly four inches taller than the kids I hung about with (all of whom were the same age). At sixteen they'd all caught up with or exceeded my height.

People mature at different ages. Lomax has clearly fleshed out. Gaskell has not.

Quote: Top Saint "I would also like to offer my apologies for daring to disagree with the majority view on here. I don't ram my opinion down others throats like quite a few on here do. I was also under the impression I lived in a free country where I had the right to my own opinion. I know Saint Simon believes this site is a dictatorship but up to now I thought he was in a minority of 1.'"


Here. Take this Kleenex and blow your nose.

Better now?

Ok.

First - Yes, you have a right to your opinion. But since NO ONE has made ANY effort to censor or suppress it I'm mystified why you feel compelled to assert your right to Freedom of Speech*

Second - Your idea is "stupid" not because I or anyone else here is on some wild-eyed power trip - desperate to put "salt of the earth" types like you down at every opportunity. It's "stupid" because REASONED ARGUMENT based on observable, unambiguous EVIDENCE illuminates it as such.

Quote: Top Saint "Just goes to prove the old saying

Ah, I get it. If people AGREE with your assessments of this or that then they are exercising "power" judiciously. However, attempts to criticise, dismiss, ridicule etc. the same are a clear violation of civil liberties, English Law and the UN Charter of Human Rights.

What are you SMOKING?

Quote: Top Saint "I you no longer wish me to contribute to discussions on these boards just let me know. I just thought this was a FORUM FOR DISCUSSION.'"


I haven't the foggiest idea who you are and I really don't care whether you stay or go. However, if you do choose to stay - grow a pair and thicken your skin.

* Which, by the way, you DON'T possess in Britian.

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Quote: Mugwump "So what? At thirteen I was nearly four inches taller than the kids I hung about with (all of whom were the same age). At sixteen they'd all caught up with or exceeded my height.

People mature at different ages. Lomax has clearly fleshed out. Gaskell has not.

Here. Take this Kleenex and blow your nose.

Better now?

Ok.


First - Yes, you have a right to your opinion. But since NO ONE has made ANY effort to censor or suppress it I'm mystified why you feel compelled to assert your right to Freedom of Speech*

Second - Your idea is "stupid" not because I or anyone else here is on some wild-eyed power trip - desperate to put "salt of the earth" types like you down at every opportunity. It's "stupid" because REASONED ARGUMENT based on observable, unambiguous EVIDENCE illuminates it as such.

Ah, I get it. If people AGREE with your assessments of this or that then they are exercising "power" judiciously. However, attempts to criticise, dismiss, ridicule etc. the same are a clear violation of civil liberties, English Law and the UN Charter of Human Rights.

What are you SMOKING?

I haven't the foggiest idea who you are and I really don't care whether you stay or go. However, if you do choose to stay - grow a pair and thicken your skin.

* Which, by the way, you DON'T possess in Britian.'"


Point 1. That's the sort of comment I'd expect from a Primary school child.

Point 2. We live in a constitutional Monarchy in which the constitution give anyone the right to free speech. Please get you're facts right.

Point 3. No-one on here has yet to give a counter argument to which I could not answer. Therefore my arguments are not stupid, however, you appear to be stupid because when you begin to lose an argument you resort to insults.

Point 4. I really don't give a monkeys who you are either. I have worked in factories for 30 years so a few verbals don't bother me in the slightest. You have probably never worked in an environment, If at all, where a few insults are part of the working day. I have a nicely sized pair thank you, and skin as thick as a rhino so please feel free to throw insults around. I will happily throw them back with interest. Now go back to class.

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Quote: Top Saint "Point 1. That's the sort of comment I'd expect from a Primary school child.'"


Errr ... you are the one claiming the right to freedom of speech - something which wasn't denied in the first place.

Quote: Top Saint "Point 2. We live in a constitutional Monarchy in which the constitution give anyone the right to free speech. Please get you're facts right.'"


rlBzzzt. Wrong Answerrl

Quote: Top Saint "Point 3. No-one on here has yet to give a counter argument to which I could not answer. Therefore my arguments are not stupid, however, you appear to be stupid because when you begin to lose an argument you resort to insults.'"


The fact that you can provide an answer to any question doesn't make it right.

Quote: Top Saint "Point 4. I really don't give a monkeys who you are either. I have worked in factories for 30 year ... blah ... blah ... blah.'"


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Quote: Mugwump "Errr ... you are the one claiming the right to freedom of speech - something which wasn't denied in the first place.

rlBzzzt. Wrong Answerrl

The fact that you can provide an answer to any question doesn't make it right.

[fx'"


You're a proper juvenile Kn*&^%ad aren't you.

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Quote: Top Saint "You're a proper juvenile Kn*&^%ad aren't you.'"


You're the one hurling expletives. I merely said your answer is stupid.

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Quote: Mugwump "You're the one hurling expletives. I merely said your answer is stupid.'"


No expletives present in that line.

P.S.

If you can find anywhere in there that stops me talking about Saints let me know.

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Quote: Mugwump "You're the one hurling expletives. I merely said your answer is stupid.'"


No expletives present in that line.

P.S.

If you can find anywhere in there that stops me talking about Saints let me know.

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I think you both need to give it a rest.

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Quote: Top Saint "No expletives present in that line.'"


Ah, so you're in the habit of communicating via the shift key and the numbers line.

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Quote: Top Saint "Point 1. That's the sort of comment I'd expect from a Primary school child.

Point 2. We live in a constitutional Monarchy in which the constitution give anyone the right to free speech. Please get you're facts right.

Point 3. No-one on here has yet to give a counter argument to which I could not answer. Therefore my arguments are not stupid, however, you appear to be stupid because when you begin to lose an argument you resort to insults.

Point 4. I really don't give a monkeys who you are either. I have worked in factories for 30 years so a few verbals don't bother me in the slightest. You have probably never worked in an environment, If at all, where a few insults are part of the working day. I have a nicely sized pair thank you, and skin as thick as a rhino so please feel free to throw insults around. I will happily throw them back with interest. Now go back to class.'"


And I thought you lot didn't like Wiganers.

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Entertaining stuff....

On the subject of free speech (whether constitutional, notional, whatever), surely if one person exercises their freedom to express an opinion, everyone else has a similar freedom to comment on that person's opinion in whatever manner they see fit, whether agreeably or otherwise.

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Quote: Webbo "Entertaining stuff....

On the subject of free speech (whether constitutional, notional, whatever), surely if one person exercises their freedom to express an opinion, everyone else has a similar freedom to comment on that person's opinion in whatever manner they see fit, whether agreeably or otherwise.'"


Agreed. It's that this Mod spits his dummy out when anyone 'DARES TO DISAGREE WITH HIM'

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Quote: Top Saint "Agreed. It's that this Mod spits his dummy out when anyone 'DARES TO DISAGREE WITH HIM''"



As you say though, freedom of speech would allow him to disagree with you , in whatever way he likes.

Also he isnt a mod technically he is a site admin so more super mod. icon_wink.gif

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Well this mod is closing the thread down as we have moved way off topic. Not sure where it all went wrong but time to put ones pencils back in ones boxes.

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