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| I'm a big fan of Wheeler as a player, but I's leave him in the reserves for a month until he can show he can string a few appearences together (it may also sharpen his mindset, if there's anyflaws there).
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| Wheeler's just as likely to get injured playing in the reserves as for the first team. Arguably MORE likely as he might not be 100% focussed.
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| If he's fit then he should be picked in the centre against Leeds on Saturday. He's one of the few players that can beat a man.
If he's not fit then I'd move meli to centre. I know his defence is terrible there but it gives us some size and attack on the flanks and puts him away from a possible kicks to the wing from sinfield.
IMO Royce has go to change things to give some players a kick up the backside. We can't keep going on how we are.
I know he ain't got many options but something got to change and fast!
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| If Wheeler could stay fit he'd be the best centre at the club IMO, including Shenton.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "If Wheeler could stay fit he'd be the best centre at the club IMO, including Shenton.'"
I really hope he can, he could be a superstar. I just hope these injuries disappear as he matures
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| Quote: FearTheVee "If Wheeler could stay fit he'd be the best centre at the club IMO, including Shenton.'"
I think wheeler can be very good centre as he's got good footwork and looks like he loves to attack but the injuries are a worry.
I think Shenton has everything to be a top class centre not just at club level but also international level. He's big, fast, good foot work, great attitude but is being wasted through getting no good ball due to having no halfbacks.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Wheeler's just as likely to get injured playing in the reserves as for the first team. Arguably MORE likely as he might not be 100% focussed.'"
But lets face it, if his career is going to carry on like it has been so far, he's not exactly a player to be making plans round.
There is a chance that he just hasn't turned the corner into a player that will just suck it up, strap it up and get out on the pitch, which I'm led to beleive is part and parcel of SL.
If dropping him to the reserves at this point reduces his focus, then he's got a way to go as a professional. Wheeler has some catching up to do and a run of a few games in the reserves would be benificial for him, assuming the 1sts don't need him.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "But lets face it, if his career is going to carry on like it has been so far, he's not exactly a player to be making plans round.'"
I'm happy to give him time to see if he grows out of these injuries as his body matures, but it's the major reason why I cannot understand some people's clamour to put him in at 7 now.
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| My nephew knew him from his blackbrook days together with a number of other young 'un's.
He reckon Gary is the best of the lot talent-wise.
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "But lets face it, if his career is going to carry on like it has been so far, he's not exactly a player to be making plans round.
There is a chance that he just hasn't turned the corner into a player that will just suck it up, strap it up and get out on the pitch, which I'm led to beleive is part and parcel of SL.
If dropping him to the reserves at this point reduces his focus, then he's got a way to go as a professional. Wheeler has some catching up to do and a run of a few games in the reserves would be benificial for him, assuming the 1sts don't need him.'"
Lack of focus isn't Gary Wheeler's problem. Lack of game time is. By plonking him the reserves you could well end up with a self-fulfilling prophecy. So far the lad has done little wrong with the opportunities he's been given. He just needs more of them. My guess is that if he could string together a dozen or more consecutive games he'd be a completely different player.
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| Quote: Mugwump "Lack of focus isn't Gary Wheeler's problem. Lack of game time is. By plonking him the reserves you could well end up with a self-fulfilling prophecy. So far the lad has done little wrong with the opportunities he's been given. He just needs more of them. My guess is that if he could string together a dozen or more consecutive games he'd be a completely different player.'"
Yes. He'd be a member of the team rather than Rugby Leagues answer to Darren Anderton.
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| Quote: Ski "Yes. He'd be a member of the team rather than Rugby Leagues answer to Darren Anderton.'"
For every "injury prone" rookie that doesn't fulfill his promise there's a star who just needs that little bit of help and patience to shine. Think of Tommy Martyn who eventually succeeded in spite of years of cruel luck. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to have got rid of him (we almost did under Hanley).
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| I have heard that Arnold is doubtful with a dislocated bank balance
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| Quote: Mugwump "For every "injury prone" rookie that doesn't fulfill his promise there's a star who just needs that little bit of help and patience to shine. Think of Tommy Martyn who eventually succeeded in spite of years of cruel luck. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to have got rid of him (we almost did under Hanley).'"
Good point, I suppose. I'm a huge fan of Wheeler as a player and think he looks very natural in the centre, but I can't help thinking that getting injured in practically every game he plays for the 1sts, followed by a months lay off, isn't doing him any good at all.
Perhaps we've put him back in too soon? A few games in the reserves may help steady him for first team action.
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| Quote: Mugwump "For every "injury prone" rookie that doesn't fulfill his promise there's a star who just needs that little bit of help and patience to shine. Think of Tommy Martyn who eventually succeeded in spite of years of cruel luck. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to have got rid of him (we almost did under Hanley).'"
Martyn got a couple of horror injuries that kept him out for a year at a time. Sean Long had the same experience. That, I think, you can put down to bad luck. Wheeler, on the other hand, just seems to pick up minor knocks every time he plays that keep him out for the next two or three weeks. The same goes for Eastmond. That seems to me more like a lack of resilience than bad luck. Hopefully it's something he'll grow out of.
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