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| Quote: No1 Saint "LMAO they obviously knew about it but it's proving wrong doing. It's not upto them to police the SC and they can legitimatly say they knew nothing of others arrangements. As long as they declared to the tax man what they were earning thats them in the clear'"
Why is it obvious that the melbourne players knew what was going on?
Do you know what everyone you work with earns?
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| Quote: paul12 "Why is it obvious that the melbourne players knew what was going on?
Do you know what everyone you work with earns?'"
Pretty much yes. All the this keep your salary secret crap (within a company) is a management ploy that came about in the industrial revolution to keep people down and stop people looking for pay rises
And Rugby players tend to have mates in there team so there more than co-workers so they will drink and talk. If you wanna kid yourself go ahead but they will all have been in on it , certainly all the senior pro's.
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Pretty much yes. All the this keep your salary secret crap (within a company) is a management ploy that came about in the industrial revolution to keep people down and stop people looking for pay rises
And Rugby players tend to have mates in there team so there more than co-workers so they will drink and talk. If you wanna kid yourself go ahead but they will all have been in on it , certainly all the senior pro's.'"
I don't agree.
I worked for a big multi national company for 38 years and didn't know what my colleagues earned. I knew their salary bands but not where they were inside those bands.
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| Im not kidding myself about anything,I'm not that bothered if the entire Melbourne squad were in on it or not.Cheating is cheating and they'll get what they deserve.
I was just wondering how you seemed to be so sure that they were all in on it but an inquiry found no evidence at all to prove this!
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| Quote: paul12 "Im not kidding myself about anything,I'm not that bothered if the entire Melbourne squad were in on it or not.Cheating is cheating and they'll get what they deserve.
I was just wondering how you seemed to be so sure that they were all in on it but an inquiry found no evidence at all to prove this!
Very very difficult to prove and even if they did what exaclty would they prove? they were offered x amount of money and accepted it ..
the SC is the clubs responsibility not the players
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't agree.
I worked for a big multi national company for 38 years and didn't know what my colleagues earned. I knew their salary bands but not where they were inside those bands.'"
Like I said very very old management ploy - encourage people to be secretive to save the company money 44
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| I've never been told by any managment I've worked for not to talk about my wage with my co-workers/mates.we go out,we drink,we talk too....but iv never asked/been asked what each one earns and I wouldnt expect to either.
Anyway thats getting away from the point.I totally agree that it would be very hard to prove and that it isn't the players responsibility anyway,but that still dosn't mean your right and that they were all in on it!
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| Quote: paul12 "I've never been told by any managment I've worked for not to talk about my wage with my co-workers/mates.we go out,we drink,we talk too....but iv never asked/been asked what each one earns and I wouldnt expect to either.
Anyway thats getting away from the point.I totally agree that it would be very hard to prove and that it isn't the players responsibility anyway,but that still dosn't mean your right and that they were all in on it!'"
well we might find out when some of the player retire and write books.
As for the management ploy it's ingrained now and implied, alot of current working practices that we think of as normal came from greedy middleclass men during the industrial revolution, and it just gets worse , start work at 16 and work till you literally drop at 70 .. and we all just accept that as normal lol, crazy really
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| Quote: No1 Saint "
I retired at 60 with a healthy company pension. It worked well for me.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I retired at 60 with a healthy company pension. It worked well for me.
So how long you been retired brian?
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| Quote: No1 Saint "
That WILL make for interesting reading!
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I retired at 60 with a healthy company pension. It worked well for me.
Best years of your life are still gone though .... and sadly it's only getting worse - If I work till my retirement age (which I doubt I will) I'll need to work till I'm 68 I think , people younger than me will be working till there 75 I think
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| Quote: No1 Saint "Best years of your life are still gone though .... and sadly it's only getting worse - If I work till my retirement age (which I doubt I will) I'll need to work till I'm 68 I think , people younger than me will be working till there 75 I think'"
And what do you suggest doing instead?
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| Quote: St pete "So how long you been retired brian?
Two years at the end of August.
Highly recommended.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "And what do you suggest doing instead?'"
Well there isnt much you can do as an individual. The system works you to death literally and we all buy into it becuase we've been essentially brainwashed from birth almost. It's all about lifestyle and if you look at alot of countries in Europe you can see they have the old work/life balance alot more sussed out than we do.
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