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| Quote: Fearnhead Cross "I'm glad if the refs do start & clamp down on this as I (& a few other fans I talk to) have been sick & tired of refs allowing teams to lie on @ the play the ball & get away with it - chief culprit being Wigan'"
A piece of pie on wigan board discussing how following Gansons performance there should be continuity in the play offs said, and I quote:
"we don't hold down any longer than anyone else. We send 3 men into a tackle, which allows you to extend the time. It's within the rules.........."
The first bit doesn't deserve comment but the rest can't be right, can it?
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| Don't know about poor reffing in the play offs this year but the are some bad results and poor performances which don't look good on the game.
Is there to many teams in super league and to many poor players?
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| Why change the focus/rules in the play offs? Fair enough at the start of the season or if an incident occurs where an injury happens but why now?
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| Quote: bigsy "A piece of pie on wigan board discussing how following Gansons performance there should be continuity in the play offs said, and I quote
No it can't be right Its a Pie delusion.
Admitting that by sending 3 men into the tackle allows more time but at the same time saying they don't hold down any longer than anyone else is a contradiction in terms.
How can it give you more time if it doesn't involve holding down longer? If they are not holding down longer, what is the point in putting extra people into making the tackle?
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| Quote: saint at wire "No it can't be right Its a Pie delusion.
Admitting that by sending 3 men into the tackle allows more time but at the same time saying they don't hold down any longer than anyone else is a contradiction in terms.
How can it give you more time if it doesn't involve holding down longer? If they are not holding down longer, what is the point in putting extra people into making the tackle?'"
Players peeling off one at a time takes longer therefore they gain extra seconds before the ball carrier can play the ball. Perhaps we should have a stated time for getting off i.e. the player must be able to play the ball after 5 seconds. Players who try to milk a penalty by not playing it are penalised.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "The anti rugby tactic is finally being stamped out'"
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| Quote: Agent Mulder "Players peeling off one at a time takes longer therefore they gain extra seconds before the ball carrier can play the ball. Perhaps we should have a stated time for getting off i.e. the player must be able to play the ball after 5 seconds. Players who try to milk a penalty by not playing it are penalised.'"
So here's a thought. If there are 3 in the tackle, then they have to have 3 square at the play of the ball. This would be difficult to achieve, taking 3 players out of the play. Teams may then avoid this tactic. Or is this a change too far.
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| Next year Wigan will employ the 13 men in a tackle technique.
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Next year Wigan will employ the 13 men in a tackle technique.'"
14 if you include Bentham
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Yeah I thought he was awful today.
He was determined to give them a try just before HT. Does anyone know what the flip all those pens were for?
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "If it isn't coincidence and they actually have decided to clamp down on it i can only see Leeds, Wire and Saints being in the running'"
Remind me of the penalty count today, considering the referees are clamping down on holding down.
Thanks.
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Remind me of the penalty count today, considering the referees are clamping down on holding down.
Thanks.'"
Remind me of the score and the teams that i predicted would win, did they?
Thanks
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| Quote: Horatio Yed "Remind me of the score and the teams that i predicted would win, did they?
Thanks'"
Haha. What does that have to do with Wigan being penalised for holding down (the penalty stats clearly show we weren't btw, that's the answer I was looking for, good job shirking the question)?
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| Quote: saint at wire "No it can't be right Its a Pie delusion.
Admitting that by sending 3 men into the tackle allows more time but at the same time saying they don't hold down any longer than anyone else is a contradiction in terms.
How can it give you more time if it doesn't involve holding down longer? If they are not holding down longer, what is the point in putting extra people into making the tackle?'"
So Wigan are the only team in SL with 3 in the tackle?? Leeds, Saints and Wire only tackle in 1s and 2s!!
We lost today because Saints controlled the tackle far better than we did!
Quote: saint at wire "Quote: saint at wire "Next year Wigan will employ the 13 men in a tackle technique.'"
14 if you include Bentham'"
Won and still moaning about the ref! He gave decisions to both sides and was consistant in what he gave! He let the game flow and didnt want to be centre of attention.
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| All good teams get three into the tackle, Wigan are just better at peeling off than the others to make it look as if they aren't slowing the ptb down.
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