who cares? he's warrington/wigan's problem now

He's matured this year Graham. He was outstanding last night and it's a shame about the pass he threw for the Aussies first try because that apart he led the front row last night. He is without doubt England's premier prop now overtaking Morley and Peacock.

Graham was my England m.o.m. last night.

I haven't looked on the Leeds board yet but I'll take a guess that they'll be blaming the two halfbacks for the defeat.

Yes and no. They are coming in for some stick, mainly because the Weasle wasn't in there.

The is no way the blame should be put on our young halfbacks but IMO they shouldn't have played as our halfback pairing.

All our plays was from sinfield at dummy half which makes it easier to defend against.

The Aussies halfbacks have played many games in nrl and at international level but ours hadn't played enough at super league level.

It will do our young halfbacks the world of good playing together against the best teams in the world.

I'm sure they will form a top class halfback pairing for next 10 years which is great for English rugby league.

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It will be a lot better when both players can actually play as half backs and not with one on either side. May as well just call them centres if their just going to do that. Plus on top of that Tomkins has defended on the right side all year whilst Eastmond ended the season at Saints on the left, so why you'd have them defend on the opposite side is baffling, simply crap coaching from Smith in both cases.

On topic of Jammer, yes he was good but its certain he'll be burnt out like Fielden was at this rate. Will Burgess be the same and look as knackered as Graham has looked in a few years time? Highly unlikely, the Aussies will spell him like he should be.

Tuesday press conference at the HJ anyone

That wasnt the topic.

I think his passing is something that he needs to look at. He seems to have developed his game where he likes to be abit of a ball player and thats fair enough because it does cause opposition sides alot of problems at times but he needs to be abit more selective about it.

There must have been 4 or 5 occasions throughout the tournament where his passes went to ground or were intercepted.

As for him being burnt out i agree that he needs a rest. It would probably be in Saints best interests to let the lad have a real extended break now and bring him back in maybe just for a couple of weeks before the season. He seems the sort of lad who'll look after himself anyway.

When you say weasle you mean genuinly one of the nicest well mannered blokes you could meet! Becuse that's what he's like!

I haven't dished out any stick but the feeling from some( and they have a point) is that to say our forward had the aussies on the rack at times the halves created very little! the pack gave them the platform and they did very little with it.

G1 made the point if mcguire had played like tomkins did there would be a 23 page thread on how crap he is?

they are young lads they will learn or get used as the scapegoat and dropped after the honeymoon period has passed.

Apologies for being a bit pedantic, but I don't remember the Aussies scoring from it. Thurston got away & passed to Inglis, but i'm sure they didn't score from that set.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
Graham was excellent, but i agree with whats bein said, he's heading for burn out.

They scored from the last play of the set with Morris going in at the corner.