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| Quote: McClennan "I thought Pryce tried to take us foward in the same manner than Wellens does with taking the ball up at first receiver. Problem was we were very slow at getting the ball our wide which is something Eastmond's introduction to half back can change next year. By the time Pyrce et al were getting the ball out wide Leeds were pretty much on top of us. The general speed of passing in the British game has always been miles slower than in the NRL. If Pryce was getting NRL service he'd be terrific. He isn't getting it though.'"
Scott Moore next season should give us more width with his passing. Thereby allowing Pryce to stand wider.
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| Quote: The Chair Maker "Scott Moore next season should give us more width with his passing. Thereby allowing Pryce to stand wider.'" what a plonker! scot moore! are you serious? go back to sleep
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| Quote: McClennan "I thought Pryce tried to take us foward in the same manner than Wellens does with taking the ball up at first receiver. Problem was we were very slow at getting the ball our wide which is something Eastmond's introduction to half back can change next year. By the time Pyrce et al were getting the ball out wide Leeds were pretty much on top of us. The general speed of passing in the British game has always been miles slower than in the NRL. If Pryce was getting NRL service he'd be terrific. He isn't getting it though.'"
I don't think we've had a decent passing hooker in the British game since Martin Dermott.
We've become obsessed with "scooters" from dummy half and as such that passing skill has all but gone.
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| Quote: AKM "Leon Pryce yet again goes missing in a big game, little Kyle Eastmond is simply running the show from Centre.................
well said agree with what you say especially about pansy.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't think we've had a decent passing hooker in the British game since Martin Dermott.
We've become obsessed with "scooters" from dummy half and as such that passing skill has all but gone.'"
Saints best move last night came from a long ball from Roby which gave Gidley some space to feed Gardner who was just short (the Webb knees incident). It's amazing what quick service from dummy half can do.
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| Quote: jonah77 "what a plonker! scot moore! are you serious? go back to sleep'"
Maybe you should and no need to be insulting!
The Chair has a valid point Scott Moores passing from Dummy Half has been excellent all season.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "I don't think we've had a decent passing hooker in the British game since Martin Dermott.'"
It's not just at hooker though. I haven't seen any British half backs that have a speedy passing game. Arguably the best passing British half back of the modern era, Andy Gregory, had to wheel around to pass to the right and even on his good side I wouldn't say his passes had a great deal of zip compared to our NRL counterparts.
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| I've been saying this for the last few weeks.
I'd move Kyle to stand off for last 10 mins of 1st half and for last 15mins of 2nd half.
When there forwards was getting little tired and looking for a rest is when Kyle should have been moved infield.
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| I would have Moore/Wheeler/Eastmond operating at half backs, move Pryce to Full Back, move Wellens to Loose Forward.
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| I would move Pryce to left outside......permanently
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| I haven't had the stomach to watch the game again, but on at least four occasions Flannery had the chance to release Gidley one on one against Burrow, and each time he kept taking it in himself. This is something he needs to look at, there is no point having a brilliant centre if he is starved of useful possession.
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| Mick Potter, was threw in at the deep end after DA, and he's not done that bad! Having Moore back next season IMO wont make a huge amount of difference
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| Big decisions are needed in games sometimes, and Potters failure to move Eastmond infield with 15-20 minutes left when it was obvious we needed a spark showed his lack of confidence in his own decision making. What was the worst that could happen? Every time Eastmond got the ball he looked dangerous and he was the most effective half back on the field depsite not even playing there.
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| I just feel that, mainly because our attacke is a bit samey, it makes it obvious when Pryce is going to get the ball at 2nd receiver, thus making it reletively easy for a player to rush out the line (or blitz, to quote shaun mccrae) and target him. Smith did it on Saturday.
Huddersfield had success with a similar defensive approach in the semi, aswell. We just don't seem to have the variety in our armoury to adapt. Perhaps a lack of pace means things don't come our way easily, but we're not showing enough imagination, imo.
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| Quote: McClennan "I thought Pryce tried to take us foward in the same manner than Wellens does with taking the ball up at first receiver. Problem was we were very slow at getting the ball our wide which is something Eastmond's introduction to half back can change next year. By the time Pyrce et al were getting the ball out wide Leeds were pretty much on top of us. The general speed of passing in the British game has always been miles slower than in the NRL. If Pryce was getting NRL service he'd be terrific. He isn't getting it though.'"
Different game
He was invisible - passed the ball on time and time again. At times, there were half-gaps for him to exploit
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