Although I don't agree with him, he is entitled to his opinion.

I remember the vitriolic comments when Maguire announced a leadership team (even some on the Wigan board) and now it's something that other clubs have copied. Strange world isn't it?

Add kevin sinfield getting the leeds captaincy at 20 before many other senior players and he's done pretty well Id say.

Wasn't Andy Faz Wigan captain at a early age also?

Some players are leaders and some ain't and that's regardless of age or how many years been at the club and Imo Burns is a leader and would be my captain.

so is Travis Burhs hurt or what?.Top secret till the team is picked for the Bunniesicon_smile.gificon_smile.gif

Burns is playing. He is going to play hooker in a shock decision to drop Roby, due to him slacking off big time against Salford.

What on earth is your problem? This is a message board. Part of the RLFANS site. A site which I and Sadfish created back when you were conducting conversations via postcard.

You seem to think this is some fantasy gumdrop universe where everyone believes your opinion REALLY MATTERS. It isn't.

Message boards are cut-throat environments in which stupid gets what stupid deserves.

If you can't handle that - leave. No one is FORCING you to stay. Alternatively, if you want to stay (and there are plenty of good reasons to stay) - quit whining and grow a pair.

If I threw a tantrum and cried every time someone said mean things about me I'd have probably keeled over with massive coronary infarction ten years ago.

I can see both sides of the argument. If someone came into your work place and started rollocking you after 2 minutes you'd be pretty annoyed.
However, in RL terms sometimes you see players signed by clubs and instantly command respect and become part of the leadership group within that team because of what they've achieved. It happened when Peacock signed for Leeds, Morley signed for Salford, Ellis signed for Hull. Johns at Warrington. These were players that had done it all within the game. Here we're talking about Travis Burns for FFS, and I can guarantee you had Roby, or Wilkin done what Vea did there's no way Burns would've reacted the same way.

Precisely. Burns showed the right kind of fighting spirit following the error in question. And his outburst appeared to work since Vea cut out the sloppy play thereafter. But this does not make him A or THE club leader. Not yet. Guys like Wellens simply won't tolerate anyone exceeding his authority with only two games under his belt. I'm not sure some of the senior players would tolerate too many on-the-pitch trashings of the kids, either. They are a very protective lot.

Travis just needs to do what he's doing. Keep his head down. Play his game. After a season or two his teammates will show him the respect his performances deserve. Or not.

Walsh is playing this weekend

I was gutted when you bought Burns as I really rate him and the gulf in class between himself and Chase is massive. He is a great aggressive player whose passing is brilliant. He will be a star for you lot.

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No, No this is exactly what you don't want, you want Burns to have his head above the pulpit, he is a pivotal player and is very much involved in the team set plays, he needs to "voice" communicate to his team mates how the game plan develops. If that means rollicking someone then so be it, forget about a season or two.....................its now.

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Have standards of English language suddenly dropped around here, or is the decline a more protracted affair? When I say [i"keep his head down and play his game"[/i surely people don't need me to EXPLICITLY QUALIFY THIS STATEMENT IN BOLD LETTERS AND SAY THAT I DON'T LITERALLY MEAN HE SHOULD PLAY WITH HIS HEAD DOWN AND NEVER SPEAK TO ANYONE.

SURELY I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN WHAT I MEAN BY THIS PHRASE?



If he rollocks James Roby or John Wilkin for dropping a pass tomorrow there will be trouble. That is the LAST THING Travis Burns should do.

And he won't.

Because he's not stupid.