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Quote: NickyKiss "Jamie Peacocks is 6.29m which shows that a players average gain can't be the best way to decide who's a better prop.

I bet James Graham's wasn't always huge either in comparison to mountains like Walmsley or Masoe.'"

I'm sure James Graham's was always huge actually. He used to win the metre maker award every year.

I didn't say average gain was the best way to decide who is the best prop. I said it was the only stat I could use because Amor has missed most of the season injured. I think it's a fairly reasonable indicator though as Walmsley's fun against London, for instance, will have been countered by his tougher efforts against Wigan or Leeds. While Amor hasn't had the benefit of the London games to boost his stats nor has he had the more restrictive opponents like Wigan to inhibit them.

On visuals alone though Walmsley generally appears to make more metres with the ball than Amor.

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Quote: SaintsFan "I'm sure James Graham's was always huge actually. He used to win the metre maker award every year.

I didn't say average gain was the best way to decide who is the best prop. I said it was the only stat I could use because Amor has missed most of the season injured. I think it's a fairly reasonable indicator though as Walmsley's fun against London, for instance, will have been countered by his tougher efforts against Wigan or Leeds. While Amor hasn't had the benefit of the London games to boost his stats nor has he had the more restrictive opponents like Wigan to inhibit them.

On visuals alone though Walmsley generally appears to make more metres with the ball than Amor.'"


James Grahams average gain was way down on Walmsleys, but his overall yardage was much better as, like Peacock plays he lots more minutes.

www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player_stats

Amor played in one of the games against London.
www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/10352
Quote: SaintsFan "I'm sure James Graham's was always huge actually. He used to win the metre maker award every year.

I didn't say average gain was the best way to decide who is the best prop. I said it was the only stat I could use because Amor has missed most of the season injured. I think it's a fairly reasonable indicator though as Walmsley's fun against London, for instance, will have been countered by his tougher efforts against Wigan or Leeds. While Amor hasn't had the benefit of the London games to boost his stats nor has he had the more restrictive opponents like Wigan to inhibit them.

On visuals alone though Walmsley generally appears to make more metres with the ball than Amor.'"


James Grahams average gain was way down on Walmsleys, but his overall yardage was much better as, like Peacock plays he lots more minutes.

www.superleague.co.uk/stats/player_stats

Amor played in one of the games against London.
www.superleague.co.uk/matchday/player/10352


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Quote: Rogues Gallery " as, like Peacock plays he lots more minutes.'"


Jeez, now Rogues thinks he's Yoda

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I suppose the frustrating thing as a Saints fan Is you know he`s just been lazy. He has the ability, he has shown it against one of the very best packs in the world at the world cup ! so why cant he put the effort in now?

Too many overseas players come over for the holiday and fans have every right to rant to get rid as at the end of the day is there hard money that pays there wages!

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Quote: Wildcat26 "I suppose the frustrating thing as a Saints fan Is you know he`s just been lazy. He has the ability, he has shown it against one of the very best packs in the world at the world cup ! so why cant he put the effort in now?

Too many overseas players come over for the holiday and fans have every right to rant to get rid as at the end of the day is there hard money that pays there wages!'"

Much like Saints, you don't know what you're going to get from week to week.
We've had some great rugby displays, some gritty, ground out victories with a depleted side, but we've also had some performances that have lacked any heart and some that are just bereft of any sort of competence.
That's why we're all so tetchy, we know that we can play (one way or the other), we just don't on a regular occasion, normally when us species have all built ourselves up for a good show.

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Quote: Wildcat26 "I suppose the frustrating thing as a Saints fan Is you know he`s just been lazy. He has the ability, he has shown it against one of the very best packs in the world at the world cup ! so why cant he put the effort in now?

Too many overseas players come over for the holiday and fans have every right to rant to get rid as at the end of the day is there hard money that pays there wages!'"


If he could replicate his world cup form week in & week out he would still be plying his trade in the NRL as a top prop forward on twice as much money as Saints pay him but sadly this is not the case. If he can be as destructive in the play offs as he was at the DW a few weeks back then I for one would be happy.

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Quote: Dux "While we're at it, was Masoe UNINTERESTED (i.e. not bothered) or DISINTERESTED (i.e. impartial)?'"

If you're going to ridicule others for their poor use of English, there's no such word as "pendentry". Try "pedantry" or, better still, just stop being pedantic......... icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "If you had bothered to look at who posted "The awesome foursome" thread on red vee then you would know why I responded. And as I presume that Masoe was one of these "awesome foursome" it was on topic.
Your still a troll. You should have been perma banned many moons ago

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If you're going to ridicule others for their poor use of English, there's no such word as "pendentry". Try "pedantry" or, better still, just stop being pedantic.........

Pedentry is simply unconventional spelling, but dis- and uninterested are different words that change the meaning of the text. Dux's observation is therefore important for the argument, yours is not.

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Quote: Simeon Stylites "If you're going to ridicule others for their poor use of English, there's no such word as "pendentry". Try "pedantry" or, better still, just stop being pedantic.........

Pedentry is simply unconventional spelling, but dis- and uninterested are different words that change the meaning of the text. Dux's observation is therefore important for the argument, yours is not.'"

I wish I hadn't bothered with this now. The word actually used in Dux's original post was "pendentry", not "pedentry" - and I'm perfectly aware of the difference between disinterested and uninterested, thanks. I recommend that you purchase a decent pair of reading glasses. Jeez. a026.gif

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "If you had bothered to look at who posted "The awesome foursome" thread on red vee then you would know why I responded. And as I presume that Masoe was one of these "awesome foursome" it was on topic. To be air, Roguey, that Bradford foursome included Brian McDermott, who was essentially an earlier version of Ian Kirke. He was also part of a team that regularly got their thunder stolen by St Helens.
Saints fans are frustrated by our inconsistencies and Masoe is the prime example. Coming on here just to be glib the week after we've lost is a poor effort, especially when the main subject gave your forwards a good showing when we beat you recently.

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Strange how some deem last Thursday to be such a poor performance by Mose when he's been much worse than that for 80% of the season.

You can count on one hand how many games he's played well.

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Quote: Toddy Senior "I wish I hadn't bothered with this now. The word actually used in Dux's original post was "pendentry", not "pedentry" - and I'm perfectly aware of the difference between disinterested and uninterested, thanks. I recommend that you purchase a decent pair of reading glasses. Jeez. I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that I have not made a post in this thread (or any other) containing the word 'pedentry'.

I brought the disinterested/uninterested thing up purely because it's been bugging me for a while. I'm not normally one of the grammar police, but I couldn't resist on this occasion.

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Quote: Saddened! "Yeah he was. Was Wellens any different? Turning his back in defense over and over, failing to motivate the players or do anything of any worth all game. Turner as well? Nathan Brown is also a joke and needs to go, we're a club heading nowhere very quickly.'"

Thank god you clueless idiots don't get to pick a team. Mose, turner, wellens all had big games yet again tonight, and Nathan Brown is masterminding an unlikely run considering the injuries. When are you going to start apologising for being a dismal troll?

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Why would a Troll apologies for being a troll?

Is that trollist?

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