No

Bullied? Intimidated? No. Grow up.

McIlorum has never struck me as someone to shy away from the rough stuff with anyone. He's a tiny bundle of nutcase.

I'd certainly hope so.

I disagree. He is a coward. He thrives on hitting when they are vulnerable, i.e off the ball or from behind. I've never seen him go face to face with someone bigger than him. Absolute house.

So your pack hasn't been bullied or intimidated by Wigans in the past few seasons? They've been dominated most games and haven't looked interested.

I've read plenty of your own fans complaining of this.

Ps your comments about McIlorum are laughable.

For the record I distinctly remember him chinning Olivier Elima, who is way bigger than MM.

100% agree we have been bullied by your pack in recent seasons and in all honesty I've been embarrassed at times how soft our pack has been but we wasn't bullied last night and I don't expect this pack to be bullied by any pack at all.

Exactly mate.
Last year our best prop was a kid who had just come from the championship . This year we have a much more experienced Walmesley, Maose and Amor . They wont be getting bullied by any pack.

I'm expecting a much better Saints pack this year for sure. Masoe will add plenty of aggression when he's back although only in short bursts. There still are a few that are a bit 'too nice' but it should be as noticeable as in previous seasons.

Last night has certainly wetted everyone's appetites for the season and I'm looking forward to Good Friday already.

Add Manu sia and Wilkin to that, they ain't going to be getting bullied. I accept other packs might get the better of ours but I don't think the likes of maose, Amor, walmsley, sia, Manu, Wilkin, Roby are players to be bullied.

I'm pretty certain we are in for another frustrating season with our attack. Not only have we got no stand off but also no strike centre. The pack can work their bottoms off and Walsh can his great passes wide but if the payers on the edges like our centres can't do anything with the good ball they get means we will struggle in attack.

I can see us reverting to one up rugby with a kick at the end of it.

I can see how on paper Turner might look like a decent 6 but it's just not going to work. He's not got a rugby brain, not got direct running style when he takes on the line. So we basically starting the season off how we finished last season, still searching for a player to play 6.

By putting Turner at stand off, we've lost what little threat he had out wife which IMO makes us weaker this season.

I've no problem with players trying bully players and intimidate players like the Wigan pack has done to ours over recent seasons but I don't like the hitting late off the ball. We lost o'brian and gardner to late challenges by Wigan last year.

Elima wasn't looking at him when he hit him.

they was stood square to each other McIlorum was the first marker.

Adrian morley went at him straight on as well.

Ryan Bailey had a couple of cracks at him as well.

And in this modern day fighting is becoming a rarity because of the automatic ban from it so its less likely we will see flair ups, but when it does happen your hardly likely to see McIlorum backing away from it.

He always tackles hard no matter who is running at him and he is far from a coward.

Who cares if stood straight in from or not. He's a cheap shot artist but I don't think he'd back down from anyone either which I like in a player but I don't like his cheap shots.