he needs, imo another 2 years to fully fill out, even jammer wasn't much cop til he was 21

Mason is 27, so as a forward (in a different position, by the way) he should be better than Clough, and its not hard to be better than Cayless when he can't play. When Mason went, we had Cayless, Anderson, Fozzard, Graham and Faasavalu, there was no way he would have even been 5th choice at the time.

Not surprised he outplayed Graham, he is currently the only 'real' prop holding the whole pack up on his own.

We can't afford that, we need to sign at least 1 prop as well as utilising Frodsham and Emmitt as cover for the injuries we will undoubtedly encounter.

you could see jammer had something about him when he broke into the 1st team. I said to my brother 1st time I saw him that he would be good prop but didn't think he would be this good!

Frodsham runs upright and is asking to be smashed. He dosent seem to have the confidence to me.

Maybe DA should have got him back on pitch against the bulls when burgess smashed him. It might have give him bit of confidence back.

I think he pretty big lad for his age. Defo big enough to play super league IMO

I think it's important we sign 2 props. 1 world class(bailey) and a good big hard working prop like griffin at giants.

If this has come from Dave nosey Parker then we can put the champagne glasses down.

Chair,if you are talking Engage stats? i think you will find that Clough has played 2 more games tham Mason and done less carries but you have your oppinion i have Mine, and like i said i think Mason is as good as your present Frontrowers,and as for the fool that put him in the same bracket has Bibey,well what can i say i remember 2004 at Cardiff Mason was outstanding for you guys that day.

I think we should be the pioneers and get ITV to do 'Prop Idol'. Get a load of people to audition for the prop position and televise it. Cheryl Cole, Tom Cruise and Russell Crowe could be the judges and we could vote off a player each week until we've got the next Apollo/Baloo/Sonny.

i like the idea of having cheryl cole there, apart from that its not a bad plan

im pretty certain that London Broncos ran a 'prop idol' competition. However this was a good few years ago, before they became Quins

We would end up with Andy Coley insted of Cheryl Cole me thinks, were nto flush with coin like the RFU so couldnt afford her tight little camels toe .

I've never been convinced by Froddy at all when he has played for us, maybe i am being harsh, but i cant see him ever being an integral part of the pack.

I get the same feeling. Only seen the kid get smashed and injured. Still young of course and plenty time on his side, lets see if he blossoms blooms and bangs.

Alot of people thought that about Mason whilst he was here in fairness and though slightly differently alot of people do about Bryn, sorry Brian, but he's turning up every week and putting the effort in which is what we need during this difficult period.

At Frodsham's age he has alot of developing ahead playing wise as well as physically bulking up to first team size, we just need to bare with him for a short while to see how he goes with a run of games.

Bryn is a tryer, but he offers nothing whatsoever to take the work load of Jammer's shoulders, and that is part of the problem.