He is a quality forward, always has been, however, Graham has passed him in terms of quality and performance.

remind me what that great victory was worth ....oh yes of course a magnificent 2 whole points

see me after class

Cant argue with that, just thinking that with the 4 Nations tour at the end of the season, Graham will again get little 'time off' and eventually this will tell on him, not a problem for us (Wigan), but bad news for Saints and the National side.

You're wasting your fingers typing that.

Rule number 1 with saints fans is that all their players are perfect and it's always the opposition player in the wrong.

Wellens does start beefing after most tries.....but that's just us seeing things. If you stood with the st helens fans you'd see he does nothing at all because only opposition players do stuff like that. No st helens players commit foul play and any scrap that takes place is always the fault of the opposition player. If an opposition player smacks a st helens player (senior on wilkin last season, floored him) he 'IS A THUG!', however if an opposition player doesn't commit said action in a stand off he ''IS A COWARD'' (ryan bailey) so either way the opposition player is in the wrong.

The quicker you learn how biased sent ellins fans are, the better.

That's funny because I wasn't aware saints and leeds had medals of any kind.

The players, who play for the clubs st helens and leeds, receive medals. Of which the saints players are well stocked up on championship runners up medals.

Yup, Saints fans are the only sports fans to do this,not only in rugby league, but in fact any sport.

I don't recall everseeing a saints player pull someones hair, though.

Where as Leeds players medals probably end up on eBay somewhere.

Could say the same about Jammer who feels the need to act an utter bell in front of opposition fans whenever Saints score a try, one of the best props in the world but the man lacks class.

I agree. I'm annoyed Graham has brought celebrating tries into our sport. He should stick to throwing balls at debutants' heads.

And claiming balls have been stripped by players who are too busy clashing heads behind his back.

Couldn't agree more!

I know. It was disgusting, that, wasn't it? Especially since there was a whole bunch of Saints fans in the away end. Not to mention that he was celebrating at his home ground what was a rather good try. Terrible. Really terrible.

James Graham has a past record of over celebrating in front of leeds fans so I think it was more likely aimed at them.