He's right is Jammer. But you've got to think of the lesser clubs in this situation eg Dire. It's there fans day out for the season, there cup final.

Difference to me is that my comments won't hit the press whereas his will.

I think he has an obligation to either get behind the concept or voice his grievances in private.

Notwithstanding the fact he goes on about spending money in cumbria instead (when the whole point of the weekend is that is makes money for the RFL, rather than spending it).

He'll probably have a whinge about England not getting top facilities at some point to compete with the Aussies then wonder why the RFL don't have the money to provide such. What does he think paid for the business class flights to the World Cup? Cumbrian RL?

Another good point - I'm sure the players at Saints aren't all that bothered but for some players this is the biggest occasion they might get to play in and they'll relish it.

I prefer it at around 11:59pm on december 31st, thats a party! I was there for the Millenium with 250,000 of my closest friends!

The only change I think should be made is the one Peacock suggested, to make it the first weekend of the season as an opener. Then it's a good time away from the double header Easter weekend and any cup games for those that have money difficulties and it should provide plenty of opportunity for press coverage.

Of course that depends on the RFl marketing it properly...

I never heard anything so stupid or narrow minded in my life, then again I avoid talking to Stains fans as much as possible as they normally come out with this kind of drivel!!!

I can confidently say that you will find more Wire fans at either a CC Final or Grand Final that they weren't involved in that you would Saints fans if they weren't involved. Warrington fans are appreciative of good rugby league, you lot are only interested if you've got somethig to brag about, if your silverware dries up so will your attendances!!

Then can I suggest you don't come on the saints board if you don't like what saints fans have to say

Not quite sure what that has to do with watching your team at a showpiece event, but hey - I avoid talking to Wire fans wherever possible so maybe it's a language thing

its only once a year, and if a team plays thursday and monday, you've got a four day turnaround


as for the aussies, i know many of their elite have played in the trans tasman test on a friday night, and backed up for their club on the saturday afternoon, they dont whinge though

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Totally wrong , Nobody should be under any obligation to cheerlead and good for him for being honest- He's perfectly entitled to voice his opinion and yes given who he is the press will pick it up- the reason they are though is that its different from the never ending PR from Red Hall on the other side -

Id be surprised if if the RFL make as much as you perhaps think and the return for the clubs has been minimal given the amount of pressure theyre put under - and thats a direct quote to me from a Superleague club vice chairman.

Remember the clubs still have to pay out wages to all staff not just players. this is a loss leader for many of them - just what they dont need when theyre having to scrap for every penny in the market place .

and do tell us what is wrong with spending money on RL in Cumbria!!!! - i went to the recent Barrow v Wigan Cup tie - tremendous day out with great passion on display from all concerned - well worth investing in i would say

Reeled!

Far too easy the ald dire fans. Anyway it is your big day out of the season though. I'll never forget the victory parade after your defeat of Salford at MM a few years back. It was like you'd won the comp, Lap of honour and everything. Laughing Stock of RL i tell thee!

this is an extra game, if it wasnt happening the clubs wouldnt be getting any money from anywhere - they still have to pay employees throughout the year (I dont expect the kit man gets paid extra for turning up to work, even if he does have to go to Scotland).

SKY and other sponsors put a lot of money into the game because of this, Edinburgh is putting money into the game because of this...this is money that wouldnt be in the sport without this weekend.

Development in places like Cumbria is funded through ventures like these. Where do you think the money for the free challenge cup tickets for the game you attended in Barrow came from? It didnt come from within Cumbrian RL. Without that scheme there would probably have been about 3000 there.

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Edinburgh is putting money in as it expects to get a return on its investments - not out of charity - Dont you think Cardiff would have fought harder to keep the event if it was such a cash cow-

Development in cumbria is not funded from this as any money from this weekend is for Superleague - that was a direct answer from an RFL official- the free ticket scheme for the CC didnt apply to NL clubs - not in round 4 anyway Barrow didnt give tickets away to their own fans and they could have sold more comfortably.

and on your point of if it wasnt happening- then 7 of the clubs would be at home raising their own cash - as it is many of them are going to be with a home superleague match for 4 weeks - some will get a bit from their cup ties but a month without direct matchday income during the season is not good for any club

They'll make even less if people are put off going by the players.

This event needs time to grow. It makes money already, it could make LOTS of money if given a chance to develop.

RL is not wealthy enough to dismiss such opportunities - the RFL are making money and playing games out of the heartlands, win win.



Absolutely nothing - but to say the RFL are spending money on the Magic Weekend that could be spent on Cumbrian RL is, quite frankly, ludicrous.

I agree, wire take around 15 fans to each cup final, and if ( IF ) saints were to ever not make it into a final, I would say we would only take aroudn 13 or 14 fans. So i agree with you.