I normally think you as very negative; but on this occasion I'm going to be more negative than you.

There was very little positive to take from this game. Leeds are a poor team at the moment. The errors were unforgivable by both teams but I think without seeing the stats worse by us.
Never in the second half did I believe we would win; we just didn't seem capable and turned into a farce.

Turner is a joke who shouldn't even be in the 19; he just can't catch a ball. His confidence seems shot or is he just useless?
The only time I saw Owens was when he was making an error.

LMS for a change seemed very determined; everyone else was average.

God knows what will happen against the goons and Widnes if we can't beat the shower that Leeds currently are.

With all the poor misses and misreads by Leeds players tonight, Im amazed to say it was a Saints player who defended the worst, Luke walsh is maybe the worst defender I have ever seen, you'd be better off putting him on the sideline and defending with 12 utiol you got the ball back



Having said that, I wouldnt be too worried if I were you guys, for the first 10 mins it was 2015 all over again and we were moving the ball fluently but not aimlessly for the first time since last year, as well as taking the opportunities presented to us, so dont be too disheartened
After that though we fell apart a bit, our internationals dont seemed to have come back yet, and there were still bits of lazy defending and misreads
If some of your passes stuck we could have been in trouble

Also, what did you guys do to Ash Handly! every time he plays you he is like a man possessed! By far our best back

I'd quite happily release him. He's so inconsistent, sometimes in the same game. He's a shadow of the player we signed and still a liability in defence.

Fear for the next two games now on that performance, it is all one dimensional, all that Walsh has in the bag is to kick high into the corner, I remember when we used to call union for being kick, kick, kick! wonder if at times our referees can be too matey, then players feel they can argue back?

I've watched the game back this morning and both teams were nowhere near the standard required. So many errors and defensive weaknesses all over the place.

I don't think Leeds were any better/worse than us

Difference with us and Leeds is they have a number of strike players and I honestly don't think we have one strike player in the team.

Shambolic performance , I'm really getting annoyed at KC's excuses too, Easter will not be a happy time!

I don't think we can fault the effort last night. Yes was started slow which effectively killed us but we got back into it and then conceded a try just 5 secs on clock which is a killer.

The team imo just isn't good enough. The players we've brought in are not up to the standard we expect.

We lack pace, we don't have strike players and we lack ideas which = no trophies which shows we didn't build on our grand final win

I think the game against Widnes will be our benchmark, we can always muster up some effort and enthusiasm in the derby against the Wigoons. Its Warrington and Widnes who are holding consistent form and not surprising being the most creative with some decent half backs.
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Its time KC forgets about the failing experiment (project) of Turner being at No 6, KC needs to stop messing about with Fages and give him a spell at No 6, he can't be so blinkered and dumb that we need creativity into the side instead of Walsh can kick, Wilkin can kick, Turner can kick.
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We are so predictable I,m surprised we are scoring so many trys, maybe its because super league is so bad at the moment and nothing to do with exciting play with the exception of Warrington and Widnes.

The other difference is they have a coach with a brain in his head who can articulate himself properly. That matters.

Friday should be "interesting".
Two teams without a creative bone in their bodies.
Who's going to barge their way to victory ?

Also sorted the defence out for the second half, Saints failed to get a point.