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| Quote St pete="St pete"Lets just say young swifty isn't happy at all.'" Swift, who has a wonderful try scoring record, is a real threat with ball in hand, as well as being safe with kicks, has been scapegoated for defensive frailties on that side. It seems harsh to blame a winger for it, it seems even harsher to leave him out long term for a player as bang average as Dawson.
As mentioned elsewhere, I'd like to see him get a run at #1 for the rest of the season.
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"Swift, who has a wonderful try scoring record, is a real threat with ball in hand, as well as being safe with kicks, has been scapegoated for defensive frailties on that side. It seems harsh to blame a winger for it, it seems even harsher to leave him out long term for a player as bang average as Dawson.
As mentioned elsewhere, I'd like to see him get a run at #1 for the rest of the season.'"
i basically agree with this, yes he made some defensive errors, but his attacking ability over Dawson (who isnt a great defender either!) puts him well ahead in my book
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I hate Hock with a passion. But it would be an answer by McManus to my criticism over the years that he's far too conservative and isn't actually even attempting to win trophies. Signing such a reckless, maverick, who is as likely to destroy the club than help win a trophy would be a sign that things are improving.'"
IF Hock came to Saints, would it mean you would focus you venom on him and leave poor Wello alone. 
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| Quote dede="dede"IF Hock came to Saints, would it mean you would focus you venom on him and leave poor Wello alone.
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You're kidding. That won't stop until poor Paul retires.
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| Quote Top Saint="Top Saint"You're kidding. That won't stop until poor Paul retires.'"
That's hopeful.
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| Quote dede="dede"IF Hock came to Saints, would it mean you would focus you venom on him and leave poor Wello alone.
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You make him sound like a disabled war veteran. In reality he's a highly paid professional sportsman who used to be good 6 years ago.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"You make him sound like a disabled war veteran. In reality he's a highly paid professional sportsman who used to be good 6 years ago.'"
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| We haven't had a line busting and offloading second rower since Derek McVey.
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| Quote The Chief="The Chief"We haven't had a line busting and offloading second rower since Derek McVey.'"
He was quality! I'd love somebody like that now.
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| if we sign Hock, the next signing might be Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi if he can play a decent standard of RL.
Sorry, I know that is in very poor taste , but Gareth "Head Banger" Hock - how many games would he miss because of brain farts?
I understand if Mods delete this post; but REALLY Gareth Hock in a Saints shirt, talk about selling your souls to the Devil? 
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| Always good to get onside with the mods before posting 
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"You make him sound like a disabled war veteran. In reality he's a highly paid professional sportsman who used to be good 6 years ago.'"
Yeah true....but what about Wello...??? In reality Hock hasn't shown a sustained run of good form for a few years and coupled with his tendency to get himself in trouble, often not even related with his playing aggression, and his age it would be foolish to take him on for the three or four games a season where he runs riot (against Leigh, Widnes, Wakefield and Salford).
And whomever said that a chairman should take on a player who'd likely help challenges for trophies as much as ruin the club, that philosophy has some merits (Sean Long). But if the said player only has one of those qualities (and not the good one) then surely it'd have to be a no.
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