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| Quote Sunshine state="Sunshine state"And after all that has been said you probably will get the LLS don't you think it just sums up this years Super League!'"
Only if Cas slip up - we wont beat Hudds that's for certain. However, the fact we're top 2 sums it up yes!
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| The worst I've seen us play as far back as I can remember. Standout moment, Monaghan's try when Turner trotted out of the line and let Monaghan walk past him. I can't see much joy for us next week or in the playoffs.
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| Most of what my feeling are have been posted in the previous 4 pages.
Whatever Brown may think, McManus will be fuming.
Our forwards have been rightly pilloried but our backs were just as bas. In particular Turner was complete poo; I just don't rate him. My thoughts go back to all the Hull fans warning us that his defence in non existent.
Why didn't he pick Wheeler, he surely could do NO worse than Wello, Hi Ho & Turner. Having said that he would probably have gone off injured after 30 seconds.
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| We've still never beaten Warrington at LP. Although our win record there as improved this season, overall it's still not great.
Since 2012 we've played 44 competitive fixtures at LP. We've won 27, drawn 1 and lost 16 times. There's still no fear factor there. Teams still look forward to coming down and playing us there.
In 44 away fixtures we've won 28, drawn 2 and lost 14 times.
Now I've no doubt got these figures slightly wrong but the message is still there...although it's improved, we're still a bit of a soft touch at home.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Another quite ridiculous performance from a team devoid of a soul. There is no backbone in this side, as soon as anything goes against them they turn to jelly. Wellens as captain is a joke, an utter joke. When the decisions were going against us after we scored, he should have been in his face complaining and demanding better. There were some utterly ridiculous decisions given tonight and he never opened his mouth.
Our pack is the best in the league if you believe Walsh, Brown, McManus and a lot of idiots on here. They're a joke. Individually they look decent players at times, but whenever it matters they get completely demolished. Tonight was unnacceptably bad, Wire lost Grix and Westwood and Waterhouse and Asotasi are appalling. They didn't even have a bench yet they still smashed up to pieces.
McManus has got to be ruthless, he's got to wake up from his slumber and have a complete clear out. We cannot give Wellens another deal, he's a complete joke, a total liability defensively and a terrible player with the ball. Turner is another who has to go. Yet they're holding back on giving Manu a contract? Release McDonnell, Dawson, Wellens, Hohaia and Masoe and we would save a packet and wouldn't notice the difference.'"
Wow.....!!!! So that's why you're top of the table then...............would hate to think where you would be if you were playing at your full potential then....!!!!
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| What happens now Do you settle for second by resting your wounded, or go all out for the plate next week? I know I’ve said that if you can get it (the LLS that is) then go for it, but now, it’s a lot harder to choose the right way to go for saints.

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| Quote St. Rughead="St. Rughead"The worst I've seen us play as far back as I can remember. Standout moment, Monaghan's try when Turner trotted out of the line and let Monaghan walk past him. I can't see much joy for us next week or in the playoffs.'"
You haven't got a very good memory; give you a clue, it was the Magic Weekend in May against... Warrington. Funny that.
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| I've no problem with calling the team performance poor. BUT.
There are a few on here who are plainly agenda driven. I've no time for that.
The lambasting of a team at the top of the league, who have won more games this year than the rest. Who have won games after Walsh got injured when most said that's it and we will win no more games.
Sack the coach even. It's utter drivel from people who for no good reason dislike certain players or Brown.
Why did Wheeler not play?? Well he had all those weeks to impress when Lance was out and impressed no one.
How I long for the days when a coach would get us to 4th or 5th in the table, get this coach who has got us to the top and our first chance of silver in 6 years out.
It's utter nonsense and for some reason that I can not fathom dogmatic from some on here. Never liked from day one and praying for games like this to push their agenda.
Makinson was tosh last night, do I use that to say sack him. No because the rest of his season has to be taken into account.
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| Quote mark_m="mark_m"You haven't got a very good memory; give you a clue, it was the Magic Weekend in May against... Warrington. Funny that.'"
Last night was worse for me. At least in the Magic game we came back a bit in the 2nd half.
Last night we were just horrendous throughout and somehow managed to get worse in the 2nd half. We made so many amateurish errors, we just didn't give ourselves any chance at all against a Warrington team who were pretty good on the night.
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| Quote Dux="Dux"There's not a lot he can do about that when there isn't a fit half-back in the squad. The worrying thing about this debacle is that it has had nothing to do with us not having any playmakers. It's been about us getting thoroughly beaten up in the middle, which has happened pretty much every time we've played on the big stage this season.'"
Why couldn't you play that inept last week? 
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| I can't help but think people are going overboard about last night.
We were missing a lot of pivots (and lost another to a broken jaw early on) and played like strangers, with a bit of a roasting from the ref thrown in.
Yes it was hugely disappointing, yes it wasn't an acceptable performance level. But there's a game next week which, if we win, we're lifting silverware.
I think I'll see how they react next week and in the play-offs before crucifying the team and club - in my opinion we have performed admirably for most of the recent past given the circumstances.
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| Quote django="django"Why couldn't you play that inept last week?
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Because you only had 12 players for most of the game? (and still nearly beat us!)
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