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| Quote Albion="Albion"The decision to drop Ashe for O'Brien was the right call.'"
Oh yes, but he didn't need to shunt Turner into the halves and then change the backline all around on the back of that did he?
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Quote The Chief="The Chief"According to Brown, he's witnessed some of our best play of the season in second half. Don't know what game he was watching.
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3064'"
Brown is just talking BS, as usual.
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Quote The Chief="The Chief"According to Brown, he's witnessed some of our best play of the season in second half. Don't know what game he was watching.
www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/3064'"
Brown is just talking BS, as usual.
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| When all is said and done we looked utterly clueless with the ball at times (unsurprising given we had a new halves partnership, one of whom had been at the club a matter of days), but we lost by 9 points away to potential GF winners without Lomax and with Roby getting himself back from injury.
Our pack did well and I think there were positives to take from the game, we will improve from here without doubt.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Our pack did well and I think there were positives to take from the game, we will improve from here without doubt.'"
Our pack did indeed do well, but the bit about improvement? We said that after the Leeds match three weeks ago and then got beaten twice subsequently.
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| I want him to know what he's doing, but like many of you, the doubt is starting to eclipse the optimism.
I'm holding onto the theory that he's tried to break us down in order to build us up, that the constant swapping of position is for our backs to learn to play with their heads up to suit what's in front of them, rather than rely just on robotic moves.
Last year Mike Rush took the common sense, no risk approach and, whilst it got us so far, we were obviously short of being a champion side. Perhaps Browns techniques are working on us from such a base level, that our players are having to redefine everything they thought they knew about playing the game. Maybe this is why motivation amongst the elder statesmen has been so poor - that those stuck in their ways are failing to embrace a new approach?
Brown, however, seems to be making it as hard as possible for us to stay positive. Forget last night. That match reminded me of the semi final we last to Wigan a couple of seasons ago under Royce and we finished that season OK. That match in itself isn't awful, but we've lost what 7 of the last 8? That includes a towelling at home to Widnes. Widnes for goodness sake!
Everyweek we are turning out a team with a fair number of very good players and being consistantly turned over by teams that play with more enthusiasm and motivation, more committed defense, a slicker passing game and a better kicking game. Every week.
His selections are baffling, dropping Makinson, loaning Howarth, moving Turner, persisting with Wellens.
Our defense out wide is crap.
Our ball handling and wide moves are crap.
We look like ing amatures.
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| Quote FearTheVee="FearTheVee"Our pack did well and I think there were positives to take from the game, we will improve from here without doubt.'" It did. That's one of the most frustrating things. Half the team is doing OK, the other half would (you'd like to think) have the ability to do well if only they're pointed in something resembling the right direction.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Brown is just talking BS, as usual.'"
You should know
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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"I want him to know what he's doing, but like many of you, the doubt is starting to eclipse the optimism.
I'm holding onto the theory that he's tried to break us down in order to build us up, that the constant swapping of position is for our backs to learn to play with their heads up to suit what's in front of them, rather than rely just on robotic moves.
Last year Mike Rush took the common sense, no risk approach and, whilst it got us so far, we were obviously short of being a champion side. Perhaps Browns techniques are working on us from such a base level, that our players are having to redefine everything they thought they knew about playing the game. Maybe this is why motivation amongst the elder statesmen has been so poor - that those stuck in their ways are failing to embrace a new approach?
Brown, however, seems to be making it as hard as possible for us to stay positive. Forget last night. That match reminded me of the semi final we last to Wigan a couple of seasons ago under Royce and we finished that season OK. That match in itself isn't awful, but we've lost what 7 of the last 8? That includes a towelling at home to Widnes. Widnes for goodness sake!
Everyweek we are turning out a team with a fair number of very good players and being consistantly turned over by teams that play with more enthusiasm and motivation, more committed defense, a slicker passing game and a better kicking game. Every week.
His selections are baffling, dropping Makinson, loaning Howarth, moving Turner, persisting with Wellens.
Our defense out wide is crap.
Our ball handling and wide moves are crap.
We look like loving amatures.'"
I could picture you getting angrier and angrier the further you got into that post.
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| Quote Dux="Dux":lol:
I could picture you getting angrier and angrier the further you got into that post.'"
I was thinking that myself while I was reading it.
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| Quote Dux="Dux":lol:
I could picture you getting angrier and angrier the further you got into that post.'"

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| A well coached team is a team where each individual knows their role which is simplified with clear instructions.
A well coached team also has all players playing as a team with plans and goals.
A good coach can also improve and motivate his players, unfortunately none of the above apply at Saints under Nathan Brown.
Saints have several International players, something is drastically wrong and it starts at the top.
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| As many Giants fans said after last night, Brown is making the same stubborn errors he made at Huddersfield!
Yes I know our coach is currently hopeless at London, but Saints deserve better, I will never forget those words "I will search the world for the best coach" and he went to Huddersfield?
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