Damn fine team Leeds. However there's two major trophy's on offer every year. One of which Leeds haven't won since 1999. And some want to call them the greatest!

It's a forum. So it's open for debate. I did not say the greatest. Just possibly the greatest team in the SL era.

On that basis, as the quality of superleague players has detoriated I think we will be looking at Bradford or St Helens between 2000 to 2006.

We can only really discuss club records beacause teams change every year.

Nine of the Leeds players who played in their 2007 win v Saints played in their 2012 win v Wire.

Don't forget, they also won it in 2004 and were losing finalists in 2005.

Leeds are the most successful Rugby League side in Super League History so therefore answers the question. Leeds have been truly outstanding in the play offs since 2007 with only 2010 being there only non apperance in the Grand Final.

I did relpy to this, but made a right pigs ear of it by editing your post rather than quoting it.

The point I was making was that you can discuss the team, just the same way that you would discuss a cohort of pupils. etc etc

Just to bring you up to speed, Saints are on 18, Leeds have just made 12.

Currently Superleague history is 1996 to 2012 not from 2007, unless you have been watching for only the last 5 years, if this is your personal timeline then you are correct.

In the Super League era Saints are the most successful team and it's an honour we should be very proud of. We've managed to sustain a period of longevity and still remain near the top despite losing some great players in the last 5 years.

But Leeds have won 5 Grand Finals in 6 years. FIVE in SIX years! The Grand Final is ultimate game, unlike the CC you have to beat your strongest rivals to win the competition and what they have done is unprecedented in this modern era.

I can't help but agree.

To reach the grand final 5 times in 6 years is an achievment in its self, to win every one of them is outrageous.

I would agree with this being fair and balanced point of view.

I think everyone it talking at cross purposes. Some are talking about club records, others are talking about this years players, others like me are looking at the team as a cohort of players or a generation of players. So we can all quote the number of trophies won, but they are not all won by the same generation of players, even if they are won by the same club.

In terms of Leeds, which generation of players are you talking about? After all, they had Brent Webb as their fullback when they beat us the first three times but I don't think he's played in either of their latest two wins.

The only recurring theme to Leeds in their grand final successes are Sinfield, Burrow, McGuire, Peacock, JJB and the thug. I think most of the others, if not all of them, have changed since 2007.

Like I say, you can't really talk about a team when you talk about 'the best' unless you refer to a particular season as teams are changing all the time.

Absolute rubbish. Leeds are a great TEAM
You have failed to mention Ablett, Leuluai and Kirke who also played in the 2007 final. So that's more than half the team who have stayed together.
Five of them were in the 2004 Grand Final