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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"I also noticed something Wellens said in a post match interview after the Bradford game, when he made a point of saying that what was going wrong was not due to a lack of effort in training or on the field. Now I may be looking into this too much, but to me that was a captain placing the blame squarely on the shoulders of the coaching staff. When a captain is doing that, especially from such a club man as Wellens, the writing is on the wall for the coach.'"
You are reading the wrong thing into that comment completely. I follow Mike Appleton on Twitter and visit the Saints FB page too. That comment was a direct response to fans criticising the team for being lazy/no passion, etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with the coach. And that is a matter of fact.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan":lol: He can't walk on the pitch and tell them to get back on the plan!'"
After one match fine,
Two matches, well maybe it's some bad form
Three matches, maybe it will turn around next week
Four matches we seam to have deeper problems
Five matches, well maybe he should walk on the pitch because what ever he's done over the last month had zero effect.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Five matches, well maybe he should walk on the pitch because what ever he's done over the last month had zero effect.'"
There was an effect. We leaked fewer than half the number of points in the last two weeks than we had in the previous two weeks. So our defence had dramatically improved and but for Jamie Foster's lapses it would have been even better. Incidentally, the original plan was to drop Foster for four matches but injury to Gardner meant that Foster had to be played.
Defence righted itself first last season too. The attack would have come.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"You really are a sad, obsessed person aren't you?
I gave Potter a full season. Only during his second season with us did I end up thinking he was rubbish. And I haven't changed my mind since.'"
To be fair, you'd jumped on the Royce is great train just from one interview. I recall you saying you like him already from his very first interview.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"You really are a sad, obsessed person aren't you?
I gave Potter a full season. Only during his second season with us did I end up thinking he was rubbish. And I haven't changed my mind since.'"
But can't you see that if you change Potter in the above sentence this is exactly how the rest of us feel about Royce.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan":lol: He can't walk on the pitch and tell them to get back on the plan!'"
Really ? and theres me thinking he could,i know he cant do that,but he can relaye messages during the game,he can give them a rollocking at half time,but nothing was changing.You can say we leaked less points against Bradford,fact is it was a bad day to play rugby and was allways going to be a low scoring game.
Ive seen you post some bilge on this site,from Tomkins not being knocked out and faking injury to todays outbursts and many others along the way.People posted last year that he was out of his depth and more suited to an assistant coach role and the mucking around so far this year really hasnt helped.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"There was an effect. We leaked fewer than half the number of points in the last two weeks than we had in the previous two weeks. So our defence had dramatically improved and but for Jamie Foster's lapses it would have been even better. Incidentally, the original plan was to drop Foster for four matches but injury to Gardner meant that Foster had to be played.
Defence righted itself first last season too. The attack would have come.'"
I have to agree with you. I think many people were suffering from premature speculation as far as Royce was concerned but I don't think there was a groundswell of opinion he should go so soon with the club not having much of a plan b.
Whilst we weren't looking world beaters, the only game we were really awful was against Hull and I thought we were unlucky against:
HKR (Foster missing 3 kicks)
Cats (we should have killed the game and took a sin binning and Foster had a mare)
Hudds (Brough goal rebounding off both uprights and the crossbar before it bounces over) and
Bradford (Foster brain fart- again, and TP knock on)
We are where we are but I'd personally adjusted to a season at mid-table.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"To be fair, you'd jumped on the Royce is great train just from one interview. I recall you saying you like him already from his very first interview.'"
I think SaintsFan replies are based on contradiction and supposition these days. I,m sure some of the truths will filter eventually on how we have ended up with such an unsaintlike team of individuals. Optimistically a temporary one.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Yes. Even if a new coach is found, it is fair to suggest this season is a write off. New coaches bring in new systems and teams have to adapt.'"
To be honest id be also inclined to agree with that, me for one on their current performances, im not driving up from south and paying overnight hotels anymore till I see something worth travelling for, and that i can justify my espense. Very dissapointed.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"You are reading the wrong thing into that comment completely. I follow Mike Appleton on Twitter and visit the Saints FB page too. That comment was a direct response to fans criticising the team for being lazy/no passion, etc. It has absolutely nothing to do with the coach. And that is a matter of fact.'"
Hmmm, the clubs media officer defending a club employee, whodathunkit?. The problem is that fans have not been complaining on mass about players being lazy or lacking passion though, being yes, but not being lazy. So it isn't a matter of fact.
Fact.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"But can't you see that if you change Potter in the above sentence this is exactly how the rest of us feel about Royce.'"
Yes. So? I disagree with you. I disagreed with you about Potter too. And I can point you to another site where lots of fans hold my POV. I can take you to the terraces where other fans share my POV. To people who speak to the players, who share my POV.
So what?
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| Quote Billinge_Lump="Billinge_Lump"Hmmm, the clubs media officer defending a club employee, whodathunkit?. '"
He wasn't defending anyone. You haven't got a clue what was said whereas I have as would others following him.
Quote Billinge_Lump The problem is that fans have not been complaining on mass about players being lazy or lacking passion though, being poop yes, but not being lazy. So it isn't a matter of fact.'"
Actually, it is. Some posters on one internet message board does not represent the whole fanbase. You may have noticed hardly anyone posts on here relative to the number of people who attend a match.
I am sure you have a brain in there somewhere. It may be useful to engage it now and again.
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