Well, I copied and pasted the piece from the Saints website which specifically includes stand off in the list of positions he has played. No offence, like, but I would believe the Saints website on this occasion since they have been training him for a few years now.

I totally agree with all of this. Its more about fatigue management more than anything else. Great Post.

You can't rotate the squad at this stage if there are no senior players to bring in. Losing a game on purpose would just be a waste, given the run we've got where wins are going to become a rare thing one would think.

This mess just highlights how poor the recruitment policy is at Saints. Sure it's nice to have local kids when the squad is healthy, but when it's not there is no papering over the cracks like other SL clubs can, ours are laid open and everything crumbles rather quickly.

I don't think the problem lies in local kids but in the number of players we dispatched at the end of last season. They might have all wanted to leave for all I know but at the time it appeared to be reckless and I think that is proving the case now.

Various websites are saying that Jon Wilkin is going to partner Lomax in the halves, with Andrew Dixon filling in for Wilkin. I guess we have got to that point when poor old Wilkin has to do a job he has expressly said he doesn't feel he is best suited to doing!

You really think it's Eamonn writing the squad info? It's sone guy with alot time on his hands who obviously as wrote down the wrong info. I've Bern watching Josh since the age of 15 for England and St Helend and I can assure you he as never played Stand off. The lad also played centre for Chorley before moving to Blackbrook, where funnily enough he also played centre.

For England U15 and U16 guess where he played? Centre. For Saints U18 guess where he plays? Centre. He as filled in on the wing for the U20's so I guess they've got summat right.

No. I assume the people writing the squad info are given the squad info by people who train the squad. Why should I assume it's Eamonn?




So if he has filled in on the wing, why can he not have filled in at stand off? Have you watched every single game he has played?

Saintsfan you're picking a argument for no reason at all. Roby as played on the wing for Saints 1st team. Would you describe him as a hooker / winger? Stop being a ding bat.

I watch 90% of our junior teams. I watch our Scholarship teams home and away. Josh as never played Stand off on all the games I have watched nor as even filled in at that position.

Very poor by the Saints website as it gets people like yourself all excited thinking these young lads can come in and fill valuable positions on our team, without them even doing it at junior level.

Shut up.

I said he had PLAYED at stand off, not that he WAS a stand off. I just read what was said on the website. And you haven't seen him play in every match so there may well have been matched when he HAS played at stand off. Young players play in many positions, that is the policy at Saints. They get good training that way.

But I'm saying nothing further on that.

Meanwhile, Saints have added another u20s player to their first team today: Joe Greenwood. He's a prop forward. Now, IS he a prop forward in your book or is he a centre? It says PROP FORWARD on the Saints website.

Given that Saints appear to have promoted a PROP FORWARD this weekend, that would suggest one of our other PROP FORWARDS is injured. Since Josh Perry was already out, that leaves us with Jammer, TP or LMS out as well.

I wonder who else will suddenly appear on the Saints website before tomorrow's match!

I must admit the quality of strength in depth of the Saints side is no where near as good as it was in say 2006. Having said that you have to move with the times and we have copped some pretty horrendos injury lists in recent years and have still managed to reach Grand Finals and Challenge Cup Finals. I can honestly say I would rather have home grown players in our squad even if they aint experienced rather than paying over the hill Australians who are past it. Home Grown players are going to get vital experience playing over the next few weeks which will stand them in great stead in the future. Makinson looks a real talent from what I have seen of him and looked at home at Full Back when Wello went off injured last Friday. Jamie Foster has been sensational this season scoring plenty of Tries and Kicking Goals, Jonny Lomax has been great at Scrum Half, Shaun Magennis has played well considering he has been shunted up to the Front Row. The future's bright at Saints and when we get all our injured players back we will be in fine fettle.

Joe Greenwood is actually a second rower! I kid you not.

Well, if you look at the Saints site, you will see that as a first team member, he is a prop forward. Presumably that is what he is going to play tomorrow.

And besides, wasn't Tony P a second rower when we recruited him? Yet he seems to play prop to me.